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Alexander Household (2 People)
12 Doris Street , Lambeth, London, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
***Henry H Alexander 23 Oct 1914 Assistant (Provision)***
Gertrude M Alexander 27 Nov 1916 Warehouse Assistant ?

1939,
Further up the image ,,,
Gertrude M name of Alexander is crossed out and Norman written in its place.plus on the image her DOB is 19th July 78.above her is Thomas Norman DOB.10Nov 76.


something isnt right with the details.

Deborah,

What is the address on the marriage cert,,,,,,,,,,I know you say it was bombed in ww2 but would have been there in 1939 where the register can be looked at to see who lived there then.plus electorals prior to 1939.
are you sure the age couldnt be 28 badly written.?

Henry would still have a birth cert if he were Jewish,

First Name Surname Service Number Rank Record Year.

H Alexander 855550 Bombardier 1942 Royal Artillery.


www.forces-war-records.co.uk/Records?

You mentioned Emily King ( and don't know why i didn't think of this earlier!) ???

Marriages Sep 1938 (>99%)
Alexander Herbert G King Islington 1b 485 Scan available - click to view
King Ivy L Alexander Islington 1b 485

But though the name rang a bell this can't be your Herbert George as the age is too far out....unless he is a brother to Henry?
:-S

The Herbert G walker born 1913 does have likely siblings, mmn Walker, his father was Herbert poss

Marriages Sep 1913 (>99%)
Alexander Herbert Walker Holborn 1b 1548
Walker Mary Alexander Holborn 1b 1548

sibling ????
Births Jun 1920 (>99%)
Alexander Henry F Walker Holborn 1b 1406

Kay

that Henry born 1914?

Births Dec 1914 (>99%)
Alexander Henry H Harvey Lambeth 1d 546

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
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First name(s) HENRY HARVEY
Last name ALEXANDER
Gender Male
Birth day 23
Birth month 10
Birth year 1914
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1993
District Havering
District number 2341B
Register number HB72
Entry number 220
Date of registration mm/yy 1293
County Essex
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain, England

probate on https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills

Yes he would have a birth certificate but not registered in the uk - Alexander was a name used by many Jewish migrants who wished to lose their identity during WW2. He was born around 1920.

It looks like his service number was Royal Artillary - I'm in touch with them at the moment, hopeful!

Deborah it really might help if you gave the address you have, regardless of whether it was destroyed during the war.

I take your point about Jewish migrants changing names, but that's not certain is it?

BTW you said you haven't looked at electoral rolls, that is why people are asking for the address so that they can look, London electoral rolls prior to and after the war are on Ancestry, even if the name is not on there for that address it 'might' give further clues

18 Mitchell Street EC1 - I have searched some electoral roles. But no joy with this address to add. More experienced researchers might be able to though than me.

https://www.forces-war-records.co.uk/units/4445/pioneer-corps/

Hardly known today is the fact that many thousands of Germans and Austrians joined the Pioneer Corps to assist the Allied war efforts and liberation of their home countries. These were mainly Jews and political opponents of the Nazi Regime who had fled to Britain while it was still possible, including the cinematographer Sir Ken Adam. These men - often dubbed "The King's Most Loyal Enemy Aliens" - later moved on to serve in fighting units like the Royal Fusiliers, Royal Tank Corps and even with the RAF. Serving as German nationals in the British forces was particularly dangerous, since, in the case of them being taken captive, there was a high probability they would have been executed as traitors by the Germans. Also, the number of German-born Jews joining the British forces was exceptionally high. Until the end of the war, one of seven Jewish refugees from Germany had joined the British forces. Their profound knowledge of the German language and customs proved to be very useful. A lot of them served in the administrative bodies of the British occupation army in Germany after the war

Just trying to grasp a few basics- Not seeing Vera & Henry on the electoral register. What address was given for the births of the children?

Electoral Register:- 18 Mitchell Street, Finsbury 1938:
Rebecca Haylett
William Haylett
Frances Neal
William George Neal
William John Neal
George Alexander Robinson
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Not seeing Vera's death

Did Vera marry again? If so, do you have the certificate? Does it list her as widowed?

Marriage?:

Marriages Sep 1962
ALEXANDER Vera SENDALL Newcastle T. 1b 194
SENDALL Herbert K ALEXANDER Newcastle T. 1b 194
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Death:
Name: Vera Sendall
Birth Date: 14 Nov 1924
Date of Registration: Apr 2003
Age at Death: 78
Registration district: Croydon
Inferred County: London, Surrey
Register Number: C86B
District and Subdistrict: 225/1C
Entry Number: 35
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EDIT: It looks likely that Herbert Sendall was previously married to Vera's sister Marjorie.

I'm pretty certain the above Vera is correct. Looking at the births on Free BMD it looks like Vera was possibly with Herbert Sendall from 1949 even though they didn't marry until 1962. (two children- son born 1949 & daughter 1952 - the daughter's children are on Facebook).

So it seems possible from the above that Vera was in a relationship with her sister's husband from as early as 1949. Possibly a reason why the children from her marriage to Henry Alexander were adopted?

(Vera's sister, Marjorie Collins was born 6 November 1919- twin of Colin Collins)

1939. No Alexanders at 18 Mitchell St EC1, but a Gladys (S)? Walker single bn 16th Nov 99..


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Sendall Household (7 People)
578 London Road , Croydon C.B., Surrey, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB OCCUPATION
Herbert K Sendall 13 Oct 1917 Plumber Heavy Work.single.


HERBERT KEITH
Last name SENDALL
Gender Male
Birth day 13
Birth month 10
Birth year 1917
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1981
District Kensington
County London
Volume 13
Page 1876
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007.

Kay- are you sure that Gladys was in Mitchell Street in 1939?

I don't have access to the 1939 but only seeing Neal and Robinson surnames listed there.

It looks like Gladys S Walker was at 18 Langton Gate in 1939.

1939 Register for 18 Mitchell Street, Finsbury (much as per 1938 ER)

Schedule 135 - Empty (possibly where the Hayletts were in 1938?)
Schedule 136 - George Robinson 1 Aug 1883 D General Labourer
Schedule 137 - Neal Household (5 People)

Neal Household (5 People)
18 Mitchell Street , Finsbury, London, England
FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
George Neal 04 Jun 1892 Male Wire Worker Married 137 1
Frances Neal 11 Dec 1886 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 137 2
Frances Rothwell (Neal) 01 Aug 1920 Female Machinist Fancy W? Single 137 3
William J Neal 01 Nov 1915 Male Railway Goods Porter Single 137 4
Ernest J Neal 04 May 1918 Male Floor Covering Single 137 5


18 Langton Gate, Finsbury - Gladys S Walker b 16 Nov 1899 Single Office Cleaner
and the Stevens Family

I had turned pages and overlooked to check street names........yes Gladys was at Langton Gdns.



;-) :-D.

Kay has just raised a good point via PM- could Sandra have been formally adopted by Herbert Sendall?

There are two marriages that are possible for Sandra- under the name Sendall.