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14 Nov 2016 21:06 |
1939 Register Transcription
19 Hawkslade Road , Camberwell, London, England Maud Martin (Gandar) 24 Aug 1884 Female Unpaid Domestic Married Archibald F Gandar 04 May 1883 Male Factory Tobacco Worker Married Robert A Hayway 21 Feb 1915 Male General Clerk Single
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Mumsy
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14 Nov 2016 13:48 |
Thanks for all your help, I know my nan maudes mum had a twin sister, and Mary seem to disappear in the war marrying someonr they did not approve of, I know minnies husband was jewish and his daughtet from his first marriage rose, we used to call her our aunt although she wasn't strictly, any way thanks for all your help
Val Cox (nee Hayhow)
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ArgyllGran
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14 Nov 2016 13:06 |
Ernest's birth:
Ernest Collett in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name: Ernest Collett Registration Year: 1890 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration district: St Saviour Southwark Inferred County: London Volume: 1d Page: 77
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ArgyllGran
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14 Nov 2016 13:04 |
Alfred Oliver's death:
Alfred O Collett in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Alfred O Collett Birth Date: abt 1878 Date of Registration: Jun 1940 Age at Death: 62 Registration district: Watford Inferred County: Hertfordshire Volume: 3a Page: 1883
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ArgyllGran
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14 Nov 2016 12:56 |
Alfred Oliver's marriage:
Alfred Oliver Collett in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 Name: Alfred Oliver Collett Gender: Male Marital Status: Single Age: 24 Birth Date: 1878 Marriage Date: 29 Mar 1902 Marriage Place: Southwark, Surrey, England Father: Alfred Oliver Collett Spouse: Florence Louisa Campbell FHL Film Number: 384920 Reference ID: p 15, no 29
Possible children ??
COLLETT, BEATRICE LILIAN CAMPBELL GRO Reference: 1906 S Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 672
COLLETT, ALFRED JAMES CAMPBELL GRO Reference: 1903 D Quarter in SOUTHWARK Volume 01D Page 165
COLLETT, HILDA FLORENCE CAMPBELL GRO Reference: 1909 J Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 910
COLLETT, IRENE CAMPBELL GRO Reference: 1911 M Quarter in HOLBORN Volume 01B Page 568
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ArgyllGran
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14 Nov 2016 12:53 |
Death of Henry Charles ??:
Henry Charles Collett in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Henry Charles Collett Estimated birth year: abt 1874 Registration Year: 1906 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at Death: 32 Registration district: Camberwell Inferred County: London Volume: 1d Page: 540
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14 Nov 2016 12:48 |
Other children of Alfred Oliver & Mary Ann Charlotte:
Louise Alice Mary Ann Anna, can't make out birthdate 1873, bapt. 16 March 1873 Henry Charles born 24 Sep. 1874, bapt. 25 Oct. 1874 Alfred Oliver born 13 May? 1877, bapt 3 June 1877 Ernest no birthdate given, bapt. 12 March 1890
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MargaretM
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14 Nov 2016 12:38 |
These children were all baptised same day, 2nd. march 1892, parents Alfred Oliver Collett & Mary Ann Charlotte:
Beatrice Lillian born 21 Nov. 1879 William Ernest born 8 Dec. 1881 Maud born 24 Aug. 1884 Minnie born 21 Sep. 1887
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PricklyHolly
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14 Nov 2016 12:20 |
Son Robert A Heyhow's birth was first registered in 1915 with the surname Collett.
Births Mar 1915 (>99%) Collett Robert A Collett Camberwell 1d 1583
His birth was then re-registered in 1921, with the surname Heyhow
Births Dec 1921 (>99%) Collett Robert A Collett Camberwell 1d 1388 Hayhow Robert A Collett Camberwell 1d 1388
I am not seeing a Collett/Heyhow marriage.
Marriages Mar 1937 (>99%) Gandar Frank A Hayhow Camberwell 1d 1284 Hayhow Maud Gandar Camberwell 1d 1284
Robert has taken on the surname of Gandar on the 1938 ER
Frank Archibald Gandar in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 Name: Frank Archibald Gandar Year: 1938 County or Borough: Southwark Ward or Division/Constituency: Camberwell Street address: 19 Hawkslade Road
With Maud Gandar and.....Robert Heyhow Gandar
Frank A Gandar in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Frank A Gandar Birth Date: abt 1883 Date of Registration: Sep 1940 Age at Death: 57 Registration district: Camberwell Inferred County: London Volume: 1d Page: 887
Frank Archibald Gandar in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 Name: Frank Archibald Gandar Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 25 Jun 1882 Father's name: Henry James Gandar........119 Villa Street Mother's name: Emily Susan Gandar Parish or Poor Law Union: Walworth Common Borough: Southwark Register Type: Parish Registers
Marriages Mar 1946 (>99%) Gandar Maud Martin Lambeth 1d 354 Martin Major J Gandar Lambeth 1d 354
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ArgyllGran
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14 Nov 2016 12:13 |
According to a tree on Ancestry, Florence had two children from her first marriage (Pring).
Births Sep 1911 (>99%) Pring Ivy M Gray Lambeth 1d 630
Births Jun 1913 (>99%) Pring Alfred E C Gray Camberwell 1d 1734
Both married and had children. Alfred married twice.
I can find out more details if you're interested, but they're not blood relatives of Maud - only her brother's step-children.
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ArgyllGran
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14 Nov 2016 12:03 |
Unfortunately, it's hard, if not impossible, to trace any living relatives.
If Minnie's daughter Mary did marry Leonard Moore, they don't seem to have had any children.
There's only one subsequent Moore/Jonas birth showing up. But it's in 1955 in Romford, so is probably the child of a different Moore/Jonas marriage which was in Romford in 1954.
William & Florence's daughter born 1921 doesn't have an unusual enough name to identify any particular record of marriage or death (if she didn't marry) as being relevant to her.
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Mumsy
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13 Nov 2016 18:10 |
Thanks does seem right for nans family, she was born in the 1880s had 3 husbands , Hayhow, gandar and Martin, I think my dad Robert Hayhow was her only child.,
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ArgyllGran
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13 Nov 2016 17:17 |
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William E Collett in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: William E Collett Birth Date: abt 1883 Date of Registration: Mar 1953 Age at Death: 70 Registration district: Camberwell Inferred County: London Volume: 5c Page: 328
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ArgyllGran
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13 Nov 2016 17:15 |
William Ernest Collett in the Web: UK, Campaign Medals Awarded to WWI Merchant Seamen, 1914-1925 Name: William Ernest Collett Birth Date: 1881 Birth Place: London Year Issued: 1914-1925
The record is on the National Archives website. Can't see the record clearly without paying, but he seems to have been awarded three different things, connected with the Mercantile Marine
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ArgyllGran
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13 Nov 2016 17:05 |
Sadly, one of William & Florence's children died in infancy:
Births Dec 1925 (>99%) Collett Jack E Gray Camberwell 1d 1186
Jack E Collett in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Jack E Collett Birth Date: abt 1925 Date of Registration: Dec 1925 Age at Death: 0 Registration district: Camberwell Inferred County: London Volume: 1d Page: 952
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ArgyllGran
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13 Nov 2016 16:58 |
William -
William Ernest Collett in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 Name: William Ernest Collett Estimated birth year: abt 1882 Age: 38 Spouse: Florence Maud Pring Spouse Age: 34 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 11 Apr 1920 Parish: St Mark, Peckham Borough: Southwark Father Name: Alfred Oliver Collett Spouse Father: Frederick March Gray Register Type: Parish Register
Two children born Camberwell 1921 and 1925 (mms Gray).:
Florence died 1949:
Deaths Jun 1949 (>99%) Collett Florence M 63 Camberwell 5c 193
Florence Maud Collett in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995 Name: Florence Maud Collett Death Date: 9 Apr 1949 Death Place: London, England Probate Date: 12 May 1949 Registry: London, England Administration to William Ernest Collett, ship's steward.
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13 Nov 2016 16:38 |
Minnie -
Minnie Collett in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 Name: Minnie Collett Estimated birth year: abt 1887 Age: 31 Spouse: Benjamin Jonas Spouse Age: 50 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 28 Apr 1918 Parish: St Antony, Nunhead Borough: Southwark Father Name: Alfred Oliver Collett Spouse Father: Phineas Jonas Register Type: Parish Register
Two children:
Births Mar 1919 (>99%) Jonas Ephraim Collett Camberwell 1d 930
Births Mar 1920 (>99%) Jonas Mary Collett Camberwell 1d 1930
Sadly, Ephraim died in infancy:
Ephraim Jonas in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Ephraim Jonas Birth Date: abt 1919 Date of Registration: Mar 1919 Age at Death: 0 Registration district: Camberwell Inferred County: London Volume: 1d Page: 1150
Possible marriage for daughter Mary:
Marriages Sep 1940 (>99%) Jonas Mary Moore Lambeth 1d 858 Moore Leonard E Jonas Lambeth 1d 858
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ArgyllGran
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13 Nov 2016 16:35 |
You've posted on the "Living Relatives" board. Are you actually looking for living relatives?
How much do you already know about her family?
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ArgyllGran
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13 Nov 2016 16:29 |
Is this her?:
Maude Collett in the 1891 England Census Name: Maude Collett Age: 6 Estimated birth year: abt 1885 Relation: Daughter Father's name: Alfred Collett Mother's name: Mary Ann Collett Gender: Female Where born: Bermondsey, London, England <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Civil Parish: St George the Martyr Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Magdalene County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 9 Waleran (Wallran ??) Buildings Occupation: Registration district: St Saviour Southwark Sub registration district: Kent Road ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 345 Folio: 25 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age Alfred Collett 42 - print compositor Mary Ann Collett 44 Henry Collett 16 Alfred Collett 13 Beatrice Collett 11 William Collett 9 Maude Collett 6 Minnie Collett 4
Maud Collett in the 1901 England Census Name: Maud Collett Age: 16 Estimated birth year: abt 1885 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Father: Alfred Collett Mother: Mary A Collett Birth Place: Camberwell, Surrey, England Civil Parish: Camberwell Ecclesiastical parish: St Antholin County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 2 Twin Villas, Hall Road Registration district: Camberwell Sub-registration district: Peckham <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 508 Folio: 11 Page Number: 12 Household schedule number: 66 Household Members: Name Age Alfred Collett 52 - printer Mary A Collett 54 Louise Collett 27 Henry Collett 26 Alfred Collett 23 William Collett 19 Maud Collett 16 Minnie Collett 14
Maud Collett in the 1911 England Census Name: Maud Collett Age in 1911: 25 Estimated birth year: abt 1886 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Birth Place: London, United Kingdom Civil Parish: Camberwell County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 18 Hall Road, Nunhead, Peckham Rye, S E Marital Status: Single Occupation: BOOK FOLDER Registration district: Camberwell Registration District Number: 27 Sub-registration district: Peckham South <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Piece: 2590 Household Members: Name Age Mary Ann Collett 63 Maud Collett 25 Minnie Collett 24 William Ernest Collett 29
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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13 Nov 2016 16:20 |
You need to give some idea of birth years etc and more info on her parents etc if known
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