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29 Aug 2016 20:29 |
Hi All
I am looking for possible descendants of my Dad's Aunt, Lydia Hayward, who was born in Camden Town in 1884. At this stage I have no idea if she maried or not.
During WW2 my dad, a Royal Navy signalman, wrote to Aunt Lydia and others on a regular basis. I am currently writing a biography of his time in WW2 and these letters, if they still exist, would be a godsend to me.
Thanks all
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N17
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29 Aug 2016 20:30 |
By the way, the name 'Sturgess' may figure somewhere, as well as an antique shop in Camden Town
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MargaretM
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29 Aug 2016 22:25 |
Possible marriage?
Marriages Jun 1922 (>99%) HAYWARD Lydia R Sturges Pancras 1b 57 STURGES Charles G Hayward Pancras 1b 57
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29 Aug 2016 22:44 |
Fantastic! Thanks, Margaret, that sounds just the person. I hope from that I can find some descendants. Great work
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malyon
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29 Aug 2016 23:00 |
these births
Births Dec 1922 (>99%)
Sturges Charles H Hayward Pancras 1b 189 Scan available - click to view
Births Dec 1925 (>99%)
Sturges George F Hayward Hampstead 1a 814 Scan available - click to view
Births Jun 1927 (>99%)
Sturges Lydia R Hayward Hampstead 1a 853
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malyon
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29 Aug 2016 23:03 |
marriage for daughter Lydia in 1952 pancras
marrage for George 1948 pancras
could be Charles married 1959 pancras
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PricklyHolly
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30 Aug 2016 09:42 |
Lydia R Sturges in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 Name: Lydia R Sturges Year: 1948 County or Borough: Camden Ward or Division/Constituency: Holborn and St Pancras Res: 23 Chalk Farm Road
With......
Charles G Sturges George F Sturges Lydia Sturges
Lydia R Sturges in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965 Name: Lydia R Sturges Year: 1965 County or Borough: Camden Ward or Division/Constituency: St Pancras North Street address: 23 Chalk Farm Road
With Charles George Sturges
Charles George Sturges in the UK, City and County Directories, 1766 - 1946 Name: Charles George Sturges Street address: 23 & 24 Chalk Farm Road NW1 Publication Title: 1938 Post Office Directory Trades Directory 1938 County: London Country: England Publication Year: 1938
An Antique Shop??
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PricklyHolly
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30 Aug 2016 10:03 |
Are you sure your Lydia was born in 1884?
I think this is more likely to be the Lydia who married Charles George Sturges in 1922.....
Lydia Rose Hayward in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name: Lydia Rose Hayward Registration Year: 1897 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration district: Pancras Inferred County: London Volume: 1b Page: 103
Lydia Rose Sturges in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Lydia Rose Sturges Birth Date: 1897 Date of Registration: Mar 1980 Age at Death: 83 Registration district: Camden Inferred County: Greater London Volume: 14 Page: 1882
Charles George Sturges in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name Charles George Sturges Registration Year: 1898 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration district: Pancras Inferred County: London Volume: 1b Page: 138
Charles George Sturges in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Charles George Sturges Birth Date: 4 Apr 1898 Date of Registration: Jun 1971 Age at Death: 73 Registration district: St Pancras Inferred County: London Volume: 5d Page: 2343
Who were your Lydia's parents?
The parents of the above Lydia were......
Marriages Dec 1888 (>99%) HAYWARD Frederick Pancras 1b 65 PUDDICOMBE Ellen Pancras 1b 65
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PricklyHolly
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30 Aug 2016 11:30 |
Perhaps someone with FMP could take a look for Charles George Sturges on the 1939 Register, to see if his occupation was Antique Dealer.
Prickles.
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MargaretM
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30 Aug 2016 12:08 |
The 1897 birth:
Lydia Rose Hayward
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 Record Image View
Name: Lydia Rose Hayward Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 28 Mar 1897 Father's name: Frederick Hayward Mother's name: Ellen Hayward Parish or Poor Law Union: Haverstock Hill Holy Trinity Borough: Camden Register Type: Parish Registers
Born 20 Feb. 1897, 134 Prince of Wales Rd., father a cellarman.
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PricklyHolly
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30 Aug 2016 14:06 |
Someone kindly sent me the details from the 1939 Register....
Sturges Household (3 People) 24 Chalek Form Road , St Pancras, London, England (Obviously that should read......24 Chalk Farm Road.)
Charles G Sturges 04 Apr 1898 Male Furniture Dealer Motor Driver Married Lydia R Sturges 20 Feb 1897 Female Unpaid Household Duties Married Charles H Sturges 10 Sep 1922 Male Stone Iron Light Work Single
So, if your Lydia was born in 1884........this is not your family.
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N17
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30 Aug 2016 20:55 |
The Lydia born in 1897 is absolutely the right one. The name Puddicombe appears in my tree quite a lot. Thanks for your help :-D :-D
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N17
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30 Aug 2016 21:30 |
This is great...apart from my book research, I have just expanded my family tree a bit. thanks all!
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PricklyHolly
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30 Aug 2016 21:35 |
Phew!!!
I was totally confused by the birth details you gave for Lydia........born 1884 Camden Town!!!.
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MargaretM
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31 Aug 2016 00:04 |
A little more on that marriage:
Frederick Hayward
in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 Record Image View
Name: Frederick Hayward Estimated birth year: abt 1861 Age: 27 Spouse: Ellen Puddicombe Spouse Age: 22 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 25 Dec 1888 Parish: St Andrew, Haverstock Hill Borough: Camden Father Name: John Hayward Spouse Father: John Lightfoot Puddicombe Register Type: Parish Register
Groom a labourer, his father labourer, deceased. Her father a labourer.
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PricklyHolly
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31 Aug 2016 08:08 |
George F Sturges in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005 Name: George F Sturges Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1948 Registration district: Pancras Inferred County: Middlesex Spouse: Eileen J Read Volume Number: 5d Page Number: 1142
(2 possible children born to this marriage)
George Frederick Sturges in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: George Frederick Sturges Birth Date: 7 Nov 1925 Date of Registration: Feb 1990 Age at Death: 64 Registration district: Colchester Inferred County: Essex Volume: 9 Page: 2761
Charles H Sturges in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005 Name: Charles H Sturges Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1959 Registration district: Pancras Inferred County: Middlesex Spouse: Shirley J Payne Volume Number: 5d Page Number: 909
(4 possible children born to this marriage)
Charles Henry Sturges in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Charles Henry Sturges Birth Date: 10 Sep 1922 Date of Registration: Dec 1983 Age at Death: 61 Registration district: Islington Inferred County: Greater London Volume: 13 Page: 1525
Lydia R Sturges in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005 Name: Lydia R Sturges Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1952 Registration district: Pancras Inferred County: Middlesex Spouse: Reginald D Thompson Volume Number: 5d Page Number: 994
(1 or possibly 2 children born to this marriage)
Lydia Rose Thompson in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Lydia Rose Thompson Birth Date: 29 Apr 1927 Date of Registration: Dec 2002 Age at Death: 75 Registration district: Chichester Inferred County: Sussex Register Number: 7AD District and Subdistrict: 7791A Entry Number: 216
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Paul
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21 Jan 2017 15:25 |
Lydia Hayward was my grandmother. I have details of her family tree and photos etc if you want to talk off line?
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22 Jan 2017 09:40 |
Welcome to GR & the boards, Paul.
Hopefully N17 had this thread on his 'Watch this' list and will know that you've added to it. Just in case he hasn't, click on his name to send a message. As long as he hasn't changed his linked email address, and is able to access it, he'll be notified that you have sent him a message.
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N17
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22 Jan 2017 10:54 |
In almost a year of frustration in trying to dig up facts about my dad's early life, this is a promising development. Thanks to all involved.
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N17
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24 Jan 2017 23:27 |
I am in touch with Paul, and I'm sure there will be a lot of fun and games catching up. Thanks once again :-) :-)
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