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I am in touch with Paul, and I'm sure there will be a lot of fun and games catching up. Thanks once again :-) :-)

In almost a year of frustration in trying to dig up facts about my dad's early life, this is a promising development. Thanks to all involved.

Welcome to GR & the boards, Paul.

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Lydia Hayward was my grandmother. I have details of her family tree and photos etc if you want to talk off line?

George F Sturges in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: George F Sturges
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1948
Registration district: Pancras
Inferred County: Middlesex
Spouse: Eileen J Read
Volume Number: 5d
Page Number: 1142

(2 possible children born to this marriage)

George Frederick Sturges in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: George Frederick Sturges
Birth Date: 7 Nov 1925
Date of Registration: Feb 1990
Age at Death: 64
Registration district: Colchester
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 9
Page: 2761


Charles H Sturges in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Charles H Sturges
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1959
Registration district: Pancras
Inferred County: Middlesex
Spouse: Shirley J Payne
Volume Number: 5d
Page Number: 909

(4 possible children born to this marriage)


Charles Henry Sturges in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Charles Henry Sturges
Birth Date: 10 Sep 1922
Date of Registration: Dec 1983
Age at Death: 61
Registration district:
Islington
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 13
Page: 1525


Lydia R Sturges in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Lydia R Sturges
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1952
Registration district: Pancras
Inferred County: Middlesex
Spouse: Reginald D Thompson
Volume Number: 5d
Page Number: 994

(1 or possibly 2 children born to this marriage)


Lydia Rose Thompson in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Lydia Rose Thompson
Birth Date: 29 Apr 1927
Date of Registration: Dec 2002
Age at Death: 75
Registration district: Chichester
Inferred County: Sussex
Register Number: 7AD
District and Subdistrict: 7791A
Entry Number: 216

A little more on that marriage:

Frederick Hayward

in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
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Name: Frederick Hayward
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Age: 27
Spouse: Ellen Puddicombe
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1888
Parish: St Andrew, Haverstock Hill
Borough: Camden
Father Name: John Hayward
Spouse Father: John Lightfoot Puddicombe
Register Type: Parish Register

Groom a labourer, his father labourer, deceased.
Her father a labourer.

Phew!!!

I was totally confused by the birth details you gave for Lydia........born 1884 Camden Town!!!.

This is great...apart from my book research, I have just expanded my family tree a bit. thanks all!

The Lydia born in 1897 is absolutely the right one. The name Puddicombe appears in my tree quite a lot. Thanks for your help :-D :-D

Someone kindly sent me the details from the 1939 Register....

Sturges Household (3 People) 24 Chalek Form Road , St Pancras, London, England (Obviously that should read......24 Chalk Farm Road.)

Charles G Sturges 04 Apr 1898 Male Furniture Dealer Motor Driver Married
Lydia R Sturges 20 Feb 1897 Female Unpaid Household Duties Married
Charles H Sturges 10 Sep 1922 Male Stone Iron Light Work Single

So, if your Lydia was born in 1884........this is not your family.

The 1897 birth:

Lydia Rose Hayward

in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906
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Name: Lydia Rose Hayward
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 28 Mar 1897
Father's name: Frederick Hayward
Mother's name: Ellen Hayward
Parish or Poor Law Union: Haverstock Hill Holy Trinity
Borough: Camden
Register Type: Parish Registers

Born 20 Feb. 1897, 134 Prince of Wales Rd., father a cellarman.

Perhaps someone with FMP could take a look for Charles George Sturges on the 1939 Register, to see if his occupation was Antique Dealer.

Prickles.

Are you sure your Lydia was born in 1884?

I think this is more likely to be the Lydia who married Charles George Sturges in 1922.....

Lydia Rose Hayward in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Lydia Rose Hayward
Registration Year: 1897
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Pancras
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 103


Lydia Rose Sturges in the England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Lydia Rose Sturges
Birth Date: 1897
Date of Registration: Mar 1980
Age at Death: 83
Registration district: Camden
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 14
Page: 1882


Charles George Sturges in the England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name Charles George Sturges
Registration Year: 1898
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Pancras
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 138

Charles George Sturges in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Charles George Sturges
Birth Date: 4 Apr 1898
Date of Registration: Jun 1971
Age at Death: 73
Registration district: St Pancras
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5d
Page: 2343


Who were your Lydia's parents?

The parents of the above Lydia were......


Marriages Dec 1888 (>99%)
HAYWARD Frederick Pancras 1b 65
PUDDICOMBE Ellen Pancras 1b 65

Lydia R Sturges in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: Lydia R Sturges
Year: 1948
County or Borough: Camden
Ward or Division/Constituency: Holborn and St Pancras
Res: 23 Chalk Farm Road

With......

Charles G Sturges
George F Sturges
Lydia Sturges


Lydia R Sturges in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: Lydia R Sturges
Year: 1965
County or Borough: Camden
Ward or Division/Constituency: St Pancras North
Street address: 23 Chalk Farm Road

With Charles George Sturges


Charles George Sturges in the UK, City and County Directories, 1766 - 1946
Name: Charles George Sturges
Street address: 23 & 24 Chalk Farm Road NW1
Publication Title: 1938 Post Office Directory
Trades Directory 1938
County: London
Country: England
Publication Year: 1938

An Antique Shop??

marriage for daughter Lydia in 1952 pancras

marrage for George 1948 pancras

could be Charles married 1959 pancras

these births


Births Dec 1922 (>99%)

Sturges Charles H Hayward Pancras 1b 189 Scan available - click to view


Births Dec 1925 (>99%)

Sturges George F Hayward Hampstead 1a 814 Scan available - click to view


Births Jun 1927 (>99%)

Sturges Lydia R Hayward Hampstead 1a 853

Fantastic! Thanks, Margaret, that sounds just the person. I hope from that I can find some descendants. Great work

Possible marriage?

Marriages Jun 1922 (>99%)
HAYWARD Lydia R Sturges Pancras 1b 57
STURGES Charles G Hayward Pancras 1b 57

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By the way, the name 'Sturgess' may figure somewhere, as well as an antique shop in Camden Town

Hi All

I am looking for possible descendants of my Dad's Aunt, Lydia Hayward, who was born in Camden Town in 1884. At this stage I have no idea if she maried or not.

During WW2 my dad, a Royal Navy signalman, wrote to Aunt Lydia and others on a regular basis. I am currently writing a biography of his time in WW2 and these letters, if they still exist, would be a godsend to me.

Thanks all