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> Much wishful thinking...
Yes, we'd all like to be descended from royalty. And the only people who kept good records were the nobles. So it's tolerably easy to decide you're related to one of William's senior advisers instead of one of his yeomen...
But the family tradition I'm referring to is our memory. My last remaining Aunt grew up in Gallia (along with my Dad) and remembers many of the names. She's the only one left who can find Richard's unmarked grave, alas.
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1850 census
Name: Richard Owney [Richard Oney] (variation added by Ancestry user)
Age: 68
Birth Year: abt 1782
Birthplace: Virginia
Home in 1850: Greenfield, Gallia, Ohio, USA
Richard Owney 68
Mary Owney 35
Hiram Owney 21
Joseph Owney 20
Hannah Owney 18
Richard Owney 16
John Owney 14
Clayton Owney 12
Elizabeth Owney 10
Mary Owney 8
William Owney 6
Margaret Owney 4
Nancy Owney 0
one of the sons is definitely your ancestor?
(or an older one who had left the household)
Obviously most of those children are not children of Richard Sr! or had he remarried and the much younger Mary was his wife??
1860
Name: Mary Owney
Age: 47
Birth Year: abt 1813
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Ohio
Home in 1860: Greenfield, Gallia, Ohio
Post Office: Gallia Furnace
Mary Owney 47
Margaret Owney 12
the same Richard in 1840 it would seem:
Name: Richd Oney [Richard Oney] (variation added by Ancestry user)
Home in 1830 (City, County, State): Tazewell, Virginia
Free White Persons - Males - 5 thru 9: 2
Free White Persons - Males - 30 thru 39: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 14: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 15 thru 19: 1
Free White Persons - Females - 30 thru 39: 1
Free White Persons - Under 20: 4
Free White Persons - 20 thru 49: 2 (Richard and wife?)
Total Free White Persons: 6
Total - All Persons (Free White, Slaves, Free Colored): 6
so two sons under 10, two daughters 10-20
Seeing your last post -- well put a small marker of some sort, a flat stone, whatever, on that grave!
My gr-grfather on one side did claim to be the son (or grandson, or something) of a well-known Viscount, on the wrong side of the blanket. No evidence found of that -- but I did find that my other parent's grx3 grandmother's brother's grandson was a genuine Viscount. A life peer, sure (and a Labour peer, fortunately) but genuine nonetheless. :-) And the great-grandfather's sister's husband's sister's husband's sister had a daughter who married a Baron ... None of any of it having bled over into my family.
meanwhile, doing a search at familysearch.org for surname O*NEY in Wellingborough, for any event ... it does seem like the name may have shifted between ONEY and OLNEY there.
at http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl looking for OLNEY births in Northamptonshire, there are quite a few since 1837
I wonder whether you might try finding OLNEYs in that vicinity to see whether they know the history of their name, and in any event whether one might test for you?
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> you know, if you search here xxx for ONEY in Wellingborough, there is a married couple. You could always just contact them directly
Will do, and thanks. (Mind you, the web site you mentioned raises some pretty serious privacy concerns.)
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There seem to be very few privacy concerns in the UK compared to Australia, Canada and even the US!
People can now opt out of being included in the commercially published electoral roll but it seems not many do. You can't opt out of having your birth, marriage and death info available to the public at the click of a mouse.
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