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ive been searching suffolk!!!! it appears they were in bridlington. sam was married and then divorced after margaret donald had a baby to him. my father and sams were brothers the family all lived at 22 duncan st barrow until my parent moved and grandma mckinlay died in 1952. thankyou all for the info you have given me..regards sam mckinlay

If that's Margaret's death in 1998, I wonder why she reverted to her maiden surname?

And by the way - she wasn't born in Scotland - unless her middle name wasn't registered.

Margaret would have been almost 44 when she married. Have to think any children were born before this.

Rose

Here's Margaret's death:

Name: Margaret Farmer Donald
Event Type: Death Registration
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year: 1998
Registration District: Bridlington
County: Yorkshire
Event Place: Bridlington, Yorkshire, England
Age (available after 1866):
Birth Date (available after June quarter 1969): 14 Oct 1915
Birth Year (Estimated):
Volume: 5441
Page: 41A

So that birth in 1970 can't be her daughter.

Rose

I assume Archibald is the poster's father.


Samuel was of Bridlington, Yorks according to the probate site. Widow was Margaret Farmer Mckinlay. This comes under Buckrose district so maybe that birth is related.

Not seeing a birth for her under Donald, unless she was born in Scotland.

Rose

doesnt help finding the son you are looking for But maybe one of his fathers family can help

so his grandfather was also a Samuel Brown

Marriages Jun 1898
Cuthbert Margaret Ellen Newcastle T. 10b 292
MCKINLAY Samuel Brown Newcastle T 10b 292

Deaths Mar 1927
McKinlay Samuel B 61 Barrow F. 8e 1434

Looks like an uncle, perhaps, right age 20 years older than the Samuel born 1927, but would say that it's the same family. Samuel named after his grandfather maybe.

note the second name

Births Sep 1898
McKinlay Archibald Brown Newcastle T. 10b 12

Marriages Jun 1931 (>99%)
Harvey Margaret McKinlay Barrow F. 8e 1936
McKinlay Archibald B Harvey Barrow F. 8e 1936
McKinley Archilbald B Harvey Barrow F. 8e 1936


he is a widower on the 1939 reg

this looks like his wife
Deaths Mar 1937
McKinlay Margaret 38 Barrow F. 8e 1380


Death Sept 1966
MCKINLAY ARCHIBALD B 68 BARROW/F 10B 175

If there was a son is he invisible because he was born prior to marriage or was the mother married before and her maiden name not Donald.

The marriage cert will give that answer with her father's name.

McKinlay Household (5 People)
22 Duncan Street , Barrow-in-Furness C.B., Lancashire, England
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FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Edward McKinlay 01 Oct 1904 Male Crane Slinger (Heavy Worker) Married 178 2
Archibald McKinlay 12 Jun 1898 Male Steel Rolling Mill Motor Attendant Widowed 178 1
Ellen McKinlay 01 Jan 1907 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 178 3


his family on the 1911 census

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
22 Duncan Street Barrow-In-Furness, Barrow in Furness, Lancashire, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Samuel McKinlay Head Married Male Engine Fitter Shipyard 52 1859 Greenock Scotland Resident Transcription
Margret McKinlay Wife Married Female - 34 1877 Sunderland England Transcription
Archibald McKinlay Sonj - Male School 13 1898 New Castle on Tyne Transcription
Margret McKinlay Daughter - Female School 11 1900 New Castle on Tyne Transcription
Jenny McKinlay Daughter - Female - 9 1902 Barrow in Furness Transcription
Edward McKinlay Son - Male - 7 1904 Barrow in Furness Transcription
Catherine McKinlay Daughter - Female - 4 1907 Barrow in Furness


so he has his brother Archibald living with him in 1939

Samuel, there was a previous marriage, Edited* may or may not* be related to the birth you have on your tree ( your own birth I assume) so do you have any evidence that there was a child to the second marriage or is it a guess?

What is odd is that when I looked at trees for the name Samuel Mckinlay , I noticed that someone else ( a couple) has the same name in their tree, they also cropped up yesterday on a seperate search I had done yesterday for someone in the same area, I can't see a connection though.

is this his birth??

Births Sep 1927
McKinlay Samuel B Stitt Barrow F. 8e 1042

possible brother

Births Mar 1929
McKinlay Edward S Stitt Ulverston 8e 949

ulverston covered Barrow in Furness then


possible parents

Marriages Mar 1927
McKinlay Edward S Stitt Barrow F. 8e 1206
Stitt Ellen McKinlay Barrow F. 8e 1206

they married in Samford Sussex and you say thats where she was living when he died .

do you have their marriage cert to see their marital status at the time

you have marked this as answered .Do you have all the info you want ???

In the early 1960s the RAF were all over the world, the family may have been in UK at the time of his death but his son could have been born on a previous overseas posting. He's in Aden at the end and could have been just detached in to pack up things, we don't know. If it was just a detachment his posting for instance could have been Malta or Cyprus.

Edit just found info, families were evacuated from Aden in 1967. Families were out here during EOKA troubles in the 1950s and again in 1974. At least 1 wife killed out here. A children's party was attacked in December 1964 in Aden. I child killed (an Air Commodore's daughter) 4 injured.

Are you sure there was a child as I've checked with FMP for overseas birth, my son's is there (service birth overseas) but no Mckinlay with mmn Donald.

This wasn't a 2nd marriage was it, he would have been 31/32 in 1959?

Families didnt travel with the troops went they went to conflicts

My hubby was in the RAF reserves when the Suez crisis was on and he received notification he may be called up '

Was told to ensure his family were provided for and to inform them if he was now married so they could update his record .

Thankfully he wasnt called upon :-D

Found this on FMP
Name Mckinlay Samuel Brown

born 1927

event 1967

died 1967
Other wars & conflicts Aden, Yemen

he is registered in overseas deaths on FMP

First name(s) Samuel Brown
Last name Mckinlay
Birth year 1927
Birth date 20-Aug-1927
Age 40
Service number Y4066079
Rank Sergeant
Battalion RAF Khormaksar
Regiment Royal Air Force
Event Died or Killed
Death year 1967
Death date 1-Sep-1967
Buried or commemorated Buried in Silent Valley Cemetery, Little Aden, Aden
Record set British Casualties, Aden 1955-1967
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory Other wars & conflicts
Collections from Great Britain
Transcriptions © Martin Edwards deaths