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I can find a birth cert for my birth mother. I know she married in 1953
Her name Madeline Evans. Then became Madeline michalec died in 1994 .
Her death cert says her middle name patricia. Her father Evan James Evans.
Can anyone help find her birth cert..

First name(s) MADELINE PATRICIA
Last name MICHALEC
Gender Female
Birth day 1
Birth month 5
Birth year 1924
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1994
District BRISTOL
District number 3011C
Register number C18C
Entry number 249
Date of registration mm/yy 1294

Now you can look for her birth, as her DOB is on here.

When she married, was her father 'deceased'?

she didn't record any second forename when she married


Marriages Dec 1953 (>99%)

EVANS Madeline MICHALEC Bristol 7b 214
MICHALEC Mieczyslaw EVANS Bristol 7b 214

there is no birth for year 1924 the only one i found was julia madeline evans there is a cross mark by this birth on image on bdm no birth for madeline patricia evans


Julia Madelene Evans
England and Wales Birth Registration Index
Name: Julia Madelene Evans
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year: 1924
Registration District: Preston
County: Lancashire
Event Place: Preston, Lancashire, England
Mother's Maiden Name (not available before 1911 Q3): Wright
Volume: 8E
Page: 711
Line Number: 146

Have you looked for a birth certificate with the first names the other way round? I can't find a birth of a Madeleine P. Evans but there are quite a few Patricia M. Evans births. Perhaps she just liked to be known by her middle name.

Kath. x

this is the only birth for the month she was born, on the death for madeline

Births Jun 1924 (>99%)
Evans Patricia M Scott Bridgend 11a 1606

twins were born after the marriage

Thanks. I'm not sure if one can use middle name on your birth marriage and death certificate..I lost I'm just don't know.Thanks you been great.

Her marriage certificate should state Evan Evans occupation,,,,,he could have been a mlitary man and she could have been born abroard?,,,,,,,perhaps Evan was a stepfather?

There is also the possibility that her death certificate has the wrong birth date.

Who are the witnesses on the marriage certificate?

All forenames should be on all certs. Mine are.

I take it you don't have a second name......................

The second name on the death cert is only as known to the informant, who could have had inaccurate info

Do you have your adoption file?

Travis,

You can use any name you choose as long as it is not for fraudulent reasons.

The birth certificate will be in the name her parents gave her. After that, she could have used either of her names when she married, or changed the order of them. On a death certificate it depends on the relationship of the person who is the informant. They will give the information they have regarding name and date of birth but that doesn't mean to say the information they have is correct.

I find that birth certificates are more likely to be correct - but even these can contain errors.

Kath. x

Travis

Pardon my asking, but is this enquiry actually for someone other than yourself?

it appears that the husband in the 1954 marriage is living


edit ...... not seeing any reply from Travis today (Monday evening) to questions raised, I have edited out info and links and saved them in case Travis returns

not unusual for a member to ask questions on behalf of a friend or family member, but if that is the case it should be explained

(Shirley below, I had explained how to find current address for a child of the marriage above, but have removed that now Monday)


another question for possible help ...

did the marriage certificate name any witnesses who may have been family?

There is info on the twins born including marriages and a current address for at least one of them

If you are a child of Madeline and adopted it may be that they don't know about you so you need to tread very carefully . Usually the advice is to use an intermediary

Not all early birth entires show a inital name,this can be its been missed off in transcribing,it was given at a baptism.so wont be in the birth GRO entry.---or they were born outside the UK so wont appear anyway.

My own fathers birth entry doesnt show his middle name,but ibecause its a surname,his birth has an entry under that aswell,! also its wasnt used on his marriage.but his death entry shows his full name as it was supposed to be in the birth indexes.

Have you checked the home address on the paperwork you have Travis, to confirm any additional Evans surname lived there.


Have you checked to see if your birth details are listed in family members tree who knew of you.?