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I have recently found that my Grand Father Arnold Bender married to Florence Louisa Martin , had 8'brothers and Sisters and would like to find information about these newly found Rellatives .

Do you have any idea of when or where he was born?

Rose

Here's the marriage so we know when this was:

Marriages Sep 1908
BENDER Arnold Holborn 1b 1370
MARTIN Florence Louise Holborn 1b 1370

Rose

,,,,,,,the Bender/Martin marriage 1908,,,,,,,,work each Bender name from the census working back then forward to see who got married and if any children were born to that couple,,,,,the male Bender line would be the easiest to follow.,then you may pick up a link by a tree search on this site,,,,

This must be his birth:

Births Dec 1885
Bender Arnold St. Saviour 1d 21

Rose

There are others on this site who have his name in their tree.

Rose

Arnold Bender
United Kingdom, World War I Service Records
Name:
Arnold Bender
Event Type:
Military Service
Event Year:
1917
Age:
31
Military Company/Regiment:
Royal Army Service Corps
Military Regiment:
S/310121
Birth Year (Estimated):
1885
Birthplace:
Southwark, Surrey, England

es 1538-1973 Transcription.

First name(s) Emma
Last name Bender
Name note -
Age 19
Marriage year 1903
Marriage date 16 Mar 1903
Marriage place Southwark, Surrey, England
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Bender
Mother's first name(s) -
Mother's last name -
Spouse's first name(s) James Snelgrove
Spouse's last name Smith
Spouse's father's first name(s) John
Spouse's father's last name Smith
Spouse's mother's first name(s) -
Spouse's mother's last name -
Residence Southwark, Surrey, England
Place Southwark
County Surrey
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain.

This is one sisters marriage.

Another sister

Looks like an Emma Bender and a Henry Bender were witnesses. Father John a deceased printer.

Name: Jane Mary Ann Bender
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Age: 20
Spouse: Joseph Haydon Moody
Spouse Age: 22
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 4 Aug 1901
Parish: St Saviour, Southwark
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: John Bender
Spouse Father: Joseph Haydon Moody
Register Type: Parish Register

A brother:

Father John was a printer . Witnesses were Mark Baker and Jane Bender

Name: John Bender
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Age: 21
Spouse: Martha Caroline Hockham
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 10 Oct 1886
Parish: Christ Church, Southwark
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: John Bender
Spouse Father: Thomas Hockham
Register Type: Parish Register

Another brother. Father John a Printer. Witnesses J Lucken and Rose Meek

Name: Francis William Bender
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Age: 20
Spouse: Mary Ann Alice Lucken
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 14 Nov 1887
Parish: St John the Evangelist, Walworth
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: John Bender
Spouse Father: Edward Lucken
Register Type: Parish Register

Another brother. Father John a deceased letter pressman. Witnesses Arnold Bender and Eliza Lydia Harris

Name: Henry George Bender
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Age: 29
Spouse: Elizabeth Mackman
Spouse Age: 27
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1904
Parish: Christ Church, Southwark
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: John Bender
Spouse Father: George Mackman
Register Type: Parish Register

Another brother:

Father John a deceased compositor. Witnesses were Joseph Haydon Moody (see marriage for one of the Bender girls) and Alfred Henry Barrett

Name: Alfred Bender
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Age: 25
Spouse: Dorothy Barrett
Spouse Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 19 Jan 1913
Parish: St Saviour, Southwark
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: John Bender
Spouse Father: Alfred Barrett
Register Type: Parish Register

THis brother was a widower when he married in 1907. Father John was a deceased printer. Witnesses were John Holden and Eleanor Bigwood:

Name: William Alfred Bender - widower
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Age: 35
Spouse: Alice Maud Ingram
Spouse Age: 30
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 21 Jul 1907
Parish: St Mark, Victoria Park
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: John Bender
Spouse Father: John Henry Ingram
Register Type: Parish Register

Previous marriage?

Marriages Sep 1889
BENDER William Alfred St. Saviour 1d 229 <<<<
Moore Elizabeth Alice St. Saviour 1d 229
NEAL Beaufoy Elizabeth St Saviour Southwark 1d 229
ORRISS Robert St.Saviour 1d 229

Yep.

Father John a printer. Witnesses Jane Bender and John Bender.

Name: William Alfred Bender
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Age: 21
Spouse: Elizabeth Alice Moore
Spouse Age: 19
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 4 Aug 1889
Parish: St Peter, Southwark
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: John Bender
Spouse Father: Stephen Moore
Register Type: Parish Register

I think Frederick may have died relatively young:

Births Sep 1877 BENDER Frederick James St. Saviour 1d 16

Name: Frederick James Bender
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 8 Jul 1877
Father's name: John Bender
Mother's name: Jane Bender
Parish or Poor Law Union: Southwark St Peter
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers

Possible death, in right area, but no middle name:

Deaths Mar 1900 Bender Frederick 22 St. Saviour 1d 8

There is a marriage for a Frederick Bender in Islington in 1896

Marriages Dec 1896
Bender Frederick Islington 1b 692
Juler Alfred Islington 1b 692
Klumper Mary Islington 1b 692
Stevens Jessie Islington 1b 692

but the census shows him to a several years younger than frederick the son of John and Jane., so I don't think he's the relative you were looking for.
Census 1901:


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census

2, Arundel Place, Islington, London, England

Frederick Bender Head Married Male 31 1870 Watch Maker Jobber -
Mary Bender Wife Married Female 32 1869 - Bow, Middlesex, England
Alice Krumper Sister-In-Law Single Female 29 1872 Cartridge Case Maker Bow, Middlesex, England
Annie Bender Daughter - Female 1 1900 - Islington, Middlesex, England

According to census 1911, widowed Jane Bender states she had 12 children born of her marriage, 4 of whom were deceased by the time of the 1911 census.

If Frederick is one of the deceased, then there are 3 other offspring to find.

Looks like one of them was an earlier Jane:

Name: Jane Bender
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 24 Mar 1872
Father's name: John Bender
Mother's name: Jane Bender
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green St James the Great
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Register Type: Parish Registers

Father John a printer:

Her death?

Deaths Dec 1875 BENDER Jane 3 St. Saviour 1d 19

this was the Jane who survived:

Name: Jane Mary Ann Bender
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 26 Jun 1881
Father's name: John Bender
Mother's name: Jane Bender
Parish or Poor Law Union: Southwark St Peter
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers

Father John a printer

Family in census:


1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Luke Street, Stepney, Whitechapel, London, England

John Bender Head - Male 27 1844 - Middlesex, England Letter Press printer
Jane Bender Wife - Female 25 1846 - Middlesex, England
John Bender Son - Male 5 1866 - Middlesex, England
Francis W Bender Son - Male 3 1868 - Middlesex, England
William A Bender Son - Male 1 1870 - Middlesex, England

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census

3, Wagstaff Builds, St Saviour Southwark, London, England

John Bender Head Married Male 37 1844 Pressman Printers Middlesex, England
Jane Bender Wife Married Female 35 1846 - Middlesex, England
John Bender Son Single Male 15 1866 Errand Boy Middlesex, England
Frank Bender Son Single Male 13 1868 Errand Boy Middlesex, England
William Bender Son Single Male 11 1870 Scholar Middlesex, England
Henry Bender Son Single Male 5 1876 Scholar Surrey, England
Frederick Bender Son Single Male 3 1878 - Surrey, England
Mark Baker Boarder Single Male 19 1862 Horse Hair Washer Surrey, England
William Baker Boarder Single Male 28 1853 Potman Licd Victr Unemployed Surrey, England


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Wagstaff Buildings, Guildford Court, St Saviour Southwark, London, England

John Bender Head Married Male 47 1844 Printers Pressman Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Jane Bender Wife Married Female 45 1846 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Henry Bender Son Single Male 16 1875 Printer Southwark, Middlesex, England
Frederick Bender Son Single Male 14 1877 Fishmongers Assistant Southwark, Middlesex, England
Jane Bender Daughter - Female 9 1882 Scholar Southwark, Middlesex, England
Emma Bender Daughter - Female 7 1884 Scholar Southwark, Middlesex, England
Arnold Bender Son - Male 5 1886 Scholar Southwark, Middlesex, England <<<<<<<
Alfred Bender Son - Male 3 1888 - Southwark, Surrey, England


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Wagstaff Buildings, 4, Sumner Street, St Saviour Southwark, London, England

Jane Bender Head Widow Female 52 1849 - Spitalfields, Middlesex, England
Harry Bender Son Single Male 25 1876 Engineer's Labourer Southwark, Surrey, England
Jane Bender Daughter Single Female 19 1882 Tea Packer Southwark, Surrey, England
Emma Bender Daughter Single Female 17 1884 Envelope Stamper Southwark, Surrey, England
Arnold Bender Son Single Male 15 1886 Mercantile Clerk Southwark, Surrey, England<<
Alfred Bender Son Single Male 13 1888 - Southwark, Surrey, England

Thanks I think the Wagstaff Buildings Arnold is my Grandfather ! Such a lot to comprehend as I was always under the illusion that my grand father and my father were only children.

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
131 Shakespeare Road Herne Hill S E, Lambeth, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Arnold Bender Head Married Male 25 1886 London Southwark Builders Clerk Transcription
Florence Bender Wife Married Female 28 1883 London St Lukes - Transcription
Arnold Bender Son - Male 1 1910 London Newington - Transcription

As Kay said, you can use the information provided to trace the siblings and their spouses through the census (depending on when they married), on 'Search All member Trees' on this site to try and make contact with people who have your relations in their tree, and you can also use FreeBMD to look for children of the later marriages that have been posted, as after 1911 the mother's maiden name is supplied on the Birth index

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Eg look for:

Bender mmn Ingram EDIT this should be Bender mmn HOLDEN

( The transcription of the marriage said her father was John henry Ingram, but the image shows he was John Henry HOLDEN, and that Alice Maud was a widow.)

Bender mmn Lucken

Bender mmn Hockham

Bender mmn Mackman

Bender mmn Barrett


Snelgrove mmn Bender

Moody mmn Bender

mmn = mother's maiden name.

You'd also need to check out the census for children of those who married before 1911, especially for any children there might have been of the first marriage of William Alfred Bender to Elizabeth Alice Moore.

I posted the census information so you could see the parents of your Arnold Bender with their other children, to see that they corresponded with the marriages that have been posted on this thread.

You can also see that John Bender's occupation of printer/compositor/ letter press printer remains fairly constant over the censuses, and on the marriages of his children, and that other family members and in laws are often witnesses at the marriages, which all helps to show we have the same family of Benders.

Brother Alfred was discharged from the army on medical grounds. The records mention his wife Dorothy, so it is the right man:

First name(s) Alfred
Last name Bender
Service number g/8576
Regiment Middlesex Regiment
Unit / Battalion 6th Battalion
Event year 1915
Age 28
Birth year 1887
Birth town Southwark
Birth county Surrey
Birth country England
Residence town -
Residence county -
Series WO 363
Record set British Army Service Records 1914-1920
Category Military, armed forces & conflict

He was a trade union member, and is listed here amongst those who served in the military.

First name(s) A
Last name Bender
Record year(s) 1914
Dates 1914
Union name National Society of Operative Printers & Assistants
Union branch London
Union branch (transcription) London
County London
Country England
Record title Half-Yearly Reports
Number of volumes 1
World War 1 records List of members on active service, obituary list including those killed on active service
Information included Obituary lists for members & wives, lists of members receiving legal advice, lists of committee members & delegates, lists of recipients of benevolent fund payments, lists of recipients of unemployment payments, branch officers, photo of Fleet Street Division of St John Ambulance Brigade
Report type Half-Yearly Report
Record type Roll of Honour
Archive Modern Records Centre
Archive series reference MSS.39/NAT/4/1/9
Record set Britain, Trade Union Members, Service & Casualties 1914-1918

His card number was 3455.

One to get you started:

William Alfred in censuses 1891 and 1901 with first wife Elizabeth Alice Moore:

1891:

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Swan Street, Bethnal Green, London, England

William Bender Head Married Male 21 1870 Labourer Bow, Middlesex, England
Elizabeth Bender Wife Married Female 19 1872 Cigar Maker Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
Elizabeth Bender Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census

38, Busby Street, Bethnal Green, London, England

William Bender Head Married Male 31 1870 Waterside Labourer Mile End, Middlesex, England
Elizabeth Bender Wife Married Female 29 1872 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
William Bender Son Single Male 8 1893 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Stephen Bender Son Single Male 4 1897 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England
Frederick Bender Son Single Male 1 1900 - Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England

(I can't actually find a death for Elizabeth Alice, unless her age has been woefully mistranscribed as 88 instead of 33 in 1905:

Deaths Mar 1905 Bender Elizabeth Alice 88 Bethnal G. 1c 113)

With second wife Alice Maud Ingram nee Holden and their amalgamated family:


1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census

25 Candy St N Bow E, Poplar Borough, London, England

William Alfred Bender Head - Male 40 1871 London Mile End Dock Labourer
Alice Bender Wife - Female 34 1877 London Bow -
Mary Ann Holden Sister Single Female 21 1890 London Bow Carboard Box Maker
William Alfred Bender Son Single Male 19 1892 London Bethnal Green Brush Makerf
Frederick Bender Son - Male 3 1908 London Bow -
James Bender Son - Male 1 1910 London Bow n
John Ingram Stepson - Male 12 1899 London Bow School
Rosie Ingram Stepdaughter - Female 10 1901 London Bow School
Henry Bender Son - Male 9 1902 London Bethnal Green School


Possible births post 1911:

Births Dec 1911 Bender Alice M Holden Poplar 1c 846

Births Jun 1914 BENDER Herbert S Holden Poplar 1c 874 S

Twins?

Births Mar 1916
Bender Doris M Holden Poplar 1c 781
Bender Elizabeth Holden Poplar 1c 781


Births Jun 1918 Bender Alfred G Holden Poplar 1c 411

Births Jun 1920 Bender Bessie V Holden Poplar 1c 854

Births Sep 1923 Bender Lilian I Holden Poplar 1c 667