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Anotheranninglos

Anotheranninglos Report 8 May 2015 12:11

I am trying to help a friend find her birth father. We have very little to go on.
His name is J. W Collins (maintenance slips she has found) We think he may of lived or worked around the cheptow area in 1955/56.

Many thanks
Anne

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 8 May 2015 12:30

Not much to go on.I'm afraid

Aren't there any family members who would have more info on him

Do the maintenance slips have any references on them

Anotheranninglos

Anotheranninglos Report 8 May 2015 12:37

Hello Shirley,
There is a letter from a solicters office in Tewkesbury. My friends mother lived Chepstow area, she then went to unmarried mothers home in Cheltenham, then to the church of england childrens socitety home in swansea till she was 9 mths old. Then long term fostered in the Chepstow area.
There are no blood family. I have suggested that she gets her file from social services to see if her fathers fall name is in there somewhere.
Anne

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 8 May 2015 12:56

That sounds the best idea Ann as a starter .

Does she know her mums name? maybe she can find family of her mum .

Sounds like her mum didnt want to have her adopted but maybe wasnt in the position to look after her

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 8 May 2015 12:58

Hi Anne, do a search at Freebmd for the name Jesse W Collins

the areas could fit ... if the person was not a young chap at the time of your friend's birth

it's one to think about anyway

definitely getting the social services file is the place to start

Anotheranninglos

Anotheranninglos Report 8 May 2015 13:52

My friend had very limited contact with her mother once/twice a year. It was only on her mothers death she found a book with letters/photos in. Just started on this so yes I was going to see about her mothers family. Letters were from other mothers from the mothers home one did sign her full name and I think she may be on someones tree. I have mailed them just to ask if they know (person name) and if so could they ask if she remembers (persons name) .

Anne

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 8 May 2015 15:35

If we can help then some name would help as the mum has passed away now

Anotheranninglos

Anotheranninglos Report 8 May 2015 18:05

Mothers name Dorothy May Nelmes b april 1927. I think I might of found her on fbm but born in 1926. westbury on Severn.
Think she had brother Albert and sister Marion.
She was unmarried in 1956.
Dorothy worked in Sedbury when she got pregnant.

Dorothy's parents are Lily May and Albert Nelmes (just found marriage on BMD).
Thankyou for your time
Anne

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 8 May 2015 18:22

Births Jun 1926
Nelmes Dorothy M Bullock Westbury S 6a 443

Marriages Mar 1924
Nelmes Albert W Bullock Westbury S. 6a 359
Bullock Lilian M Nelmes Westbury S 6a 359

Births Mar 1924 (>99%)
Nelmes Marion A Bullock Westbury S. 6a 455 Scan available - click to view
Births Jun 1926 (>99%)
Nelmes Dorothy M Bullock Westbury S 6a 443 Scan available - click to view
Births Dec 1928 (>99%)
Nelmes Albert R Bullock Westbury S. 6a 391 Scan available - click to view
Births Dec 1930 (>99%)
Nelmes May Bullock Gloucester 6a 411 Scan available - click to view

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 8 May 2015 18:29

sadly it looks like May died as a baby
First name(s) MAY
Last name NELMES
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1930
Age 0
Death quarter 4
Death year 1930
District GLOUCESTER
County Gloucestershire
Volume 6A
Page 343
Country England

Anotheranninglos

Anotheranninglos Report 8 May 2015 18:33

thats the right area and seems like them. I will see if I can find relations of Marion and albert.
Thankyou
Anne

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 8 May 2015 18:34

the brother
First name(s) ALBERT REGINALD
Last name NELMES
Gender Male
Birth day 20
Birth month 10
Birth year 1928
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1989
District GLOUCESTER
Register number 189
County Gloucestershire
Volume 22
Page 2071
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain
(c) brightsolid online publishing ltd

Anotheranninglos

Anotheranninglos Report 8 May 2015 19:21

might be worth her getting the death cert to see who the informer (thingy whatever its called) is

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 8 May 2015 19:40

wonder if this is dad
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Wintles Farm, Blaisdon, Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire, England


George Nelmes Head Married Male 55 1846 Stockman On Farm Arlingham, Gloucestershire, England Transcription
Alice Nelmes Wife Married Female 56 1845 - Sherston, Wiltshire, England Transcription
Albert W Nelmes Son Single Male 14 1887 Carter's Boy On Farm Blaisdon, Gloucestershire, England Transcription



First name(s) ALBERT W
Last name NELMES
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1887
Age 75
Death quarter 4
Death year 1962
District GLOUCESTER RURAL
County Gloucestershire
Volume 7B
Page 522
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain
(c) brightsolid online publishing ltd

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 8 May 2015 19:41

maybe Dorothy didnt marry

First name(s) DOROTHY MAY
Last name NELMES
Gender Female
Birth day 23
Birth month 4
Birth year 1926
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1993
District GLOUCESTER
District number 4831C
Register number C41
Entry number 297
Date of registration mm/yy 0193
County Gloucestershire
Country England

Anotheranninglos

Anotheranninglos Report 8 May 2015 20:42

thats her. I just got back to my friend and she said Dorothys b day was definatly st Georges day.
Anne

Anotheranninglos

Anotheranninglos Report 8 May 2015 21:08

Hello Shirley,
Could I ask you if you can do me a 1911 census look up please if you are able to?.
Going back to dorothys mother Lily Bullock I think I might of found her on the forest of Dean Fh site with this information. 1901 census
1901
Ada Bullock abt 1891 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Gloucester Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Bullock abt 1858 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England Wife Gloucester Gloucestershire
Ethel M Bullock abt 1895 Gloucestershire, England Daughter Gloucester Gloucestershire
Gaius C Bullock abt 1883 Hamles of Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son Gloucester Gloucestershire
Joseph Bullock abt 1858 Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire, England Head Gloucester Gloucestershire
Kate Bullock abt 1893 Gloucestershire, England Daughter Gloucester Gloucestershire
Lily M Bullock abt 1898 Gloucestershire, England Daughter Gloucester Gloucestershire

Thankyou, I am off now for a while,
Anne

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 9 May 2015 00:24

Annie did you happen to see my post about a JW Collins?

I had thought a dob of 1917 might have made him a little old but I see your friend's mother was born in1926 and was unmarried at 30

if you do the search I suggested, you'll note an apparent marriage breakdown (after last child born 1948) and eventual remarriage (both parties) which would also fit the situation

just a probably remote possibility but since the name is unusual I wonder whether someone might remember it, if it were the right name

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 9 May 2015 00:33

Do you have dates on the maintenance slips? If there are some dated after 1969 you can rule out Jesse because he died.

Rose

Anotheranninglos

Anotheranninglos Report 9 May 2015 02:23

Hello Joonie,
I have now looked I was putting in JessiE and coming back with nothing that matched what you said.
I have found Jesse 2 marriages and 2 children from his 1st marriage.

When she was telling me about it she did say that she had the name Jesse in her head. Her foster mum must of told her.
Anne