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Would like to make contact with any descendents of my grt grandparents family
Mary Birch b1856 Westminster m Joseph William Murphy babt 1857 -Westminster
Children: William Frederick, Florence Mary, Alice M, Louisa A, Emma R, Albert Henry, Minnie and Rosalyn.
Regards,
Marilyn Murphy
Melb. Vic

:-D

Have you looked in search all trees?

Have you tried researching?

https://familysearch.org/search

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Find the births of the children to get FULL names, which will aid your searches

The marriage was in 1879 in Wandsworth district

For dates etc

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Hibbert Street, Battersea, Wandsworth, London, England


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Murphy Head Widower Male 32 1859 Stone Mason Westminster, Middlesex, England Transcription
Florence M Murphy Daughter Single Female 11 1880 Scholar Battersea, Surrey, England Transcription
William F Murphy Son - Male 10 1881 Scholar Battersea, Surrey, England Transcription
Alice M Murphy Daughter - Female 7 1884 Scholar Battersea, Surrey, England Transcription
Louisa A Murphy Daughter - Female 6 1885 Scholar Battersea, Surrey, England Transcription
Emma R Murphy Daughter - Female 4 1887 Scholar Battersea, Surrey, England Transcription
Albert H Murphy Son - Male 3 1888 - Battersea, Surrey, England

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
8, Palmerston Terrace, Battersea, Wandsworth, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Murphy Head Married Male 22 1859 Stone Mason Westminster, Middlesex, England Transcription
Mary Murphy Wife Married Female 25 1856 - Westminster, Middlesex, England Transcription
Florence Murphy Daughter Single Female 1 1880 - Battersea, Surrey, England Transcription
William Murphy Son Single Male 0 1881 - Battersea, Surrey, England

I can see no evidence of Minnie and Rosalyn as part of this family

First name(s) ALBERT HENRY
Last name MURPHY
Birth year 1888
Birth parish BATTERSEA
Birth town LONDON
Birth county LONDON
Birth country ENGLAND
Service number 60
Rank -
Regiment -
Document Type Attestation
Attestation year 1908
Attestation Day 1
Attestation Month 4
Attestation age years 20
Attestation age months 3
Attestation Corps 23RD BATT COUNTY OF LONDON REGT
Attestation service number 60
Series chelsea pensioners british army service records 1760-1913
Box 5564
Box Record Number 130
Record set British Army Service Records 1760-1915

MURPHY EMMA RHODA 1886 — 1886 Births & baptisms Wandsworth, London, England

From freebmd, site details as per my earlier post


Marriages Jun 1911 (>99%)

Hayes Harry Wandsworth 1d 1035
Murphy Emma R Wandsworth 1d 1035

cert will confirm father's details

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First name(s) EMMA RHODA
Last name HAYES
Gender Female
Birth day 6
Birth month 7
Birth year 1886
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1970
District CLEVELAND
County Yorkshire
Volume 1B
Page 1612

Based on possible marriage found on freebmd

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
41 Balvernie Grove S W, Wandsworth, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Louisa Garwood Wife Married Female 26 1885 Battersea Surrey Military Tailoress

First name(s) LOUISA A
Last name GARWOOD
Birth year 1885
Age 81
Death quarter 4
Death year 1966
District HILLINGDON
County Middlesex
Volume 5C
Page 330

Thankyou so much Jacqueline. :-D <3 :-D <3 :-D :-S

Merry Christmas to You,
Marilyn x

Did Joseph lie in 1891 about being a widow? Mary appears to be alive in 1901

1901:
Mary Murphy Head Widow Female 45 1856 - Westminster, Middlesex,
Alice Murphy Daughter Single Female 17 1884 Cardboard Box Maker Battersea, Middlesex,
Lucy Murphy Daughter Single Female 16 1885 Tailoress Army Clothing Dept Battersea,
Emma Murphy Daughter Single Female 14 1887 Cardboard Box Maker Battersea, Middlesex,
Albert Murphy Son Single Male 13 1888 - Battersea, Middlesex,
Alfred Rowland Nurse Child Single Male 0 1901 - Battersea, Middlesex,

Street Hibbert Street
Parish Battersea
Country England
County London
Municipal ward Winstanley
Registration district Wandsworth
Archive reference RG13
Piece number 454
Folio 59
Page 20
Record set 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
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Possible for Mary in 1891:

1891:
Name: Mary Murphy
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Patient
Gender: Female
Where born: Westminster, London, England
Civil Parish: St Olave and St Thomas
Ecclesiastical parish: St Olaves and St Thomas
Town: London City
County/Island: London
Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub registration district: St Olave Southwark
ED, institution, or vessel: Guys Hospital
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 369
Folio: 108
Page Number: 19

Yes,
Odd this isn't it ?
I think that is Mary Birch his wife, my great grandmother.
I do know from old letters sent from England, that Mary was alive untill abt 1929
At 10 Lainson St. Southfields..
Joseph died abt 1897 abt 40 yrs of age is buried in the Putneyvale cemetery.
Alfred Rowland ? Does this mean she is caring for him ?
Alice Mary Murphy m a Jeffrey but can't find anything on them either.
This family and their descendents don't want to be found !!!
Appreciate your efforts,
Marilyn
:-) :-D

I'll have another look in a bit- but this is the Rosalyn and Minnie in 1911? Mary states she is married??!!

1911

Name: Mary Murphy
Age in 1911: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Minster
Civil Parish: Wandsworth
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 10 Lainson St, Southfields, Wandsworth S W
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 31
Estimated Marriage Year: 1880
Occupation: NONE
Registration district: Wandsworth
Registration District Number: 26
Sub-registration district: Southfields
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Piece: 2414

Mary Murphy 53 Married Westminster
Alice Murphy 26 Battersea
Emma Murphy 24 Battersea
Rose Murphy 18 Battersea
Minnie Murphy 17 Battersea

Married 31 years, 10 Children, 8 still living

Alice's second name looks to be Maud, not Mary:

Name: Alice Maud Murphy
Record Type: Baptism
Born 2? September 1883
Baptism Date: 12 Dec 1883
Father's Name: Joseph William Murphy
Mother's name: Mary Murphy
Parish or Poor Law Union: Battersea Christ Church
Borough: Wandsworth
Register Type: Parish Registers

Baptism for Minnie (so she does appear to be their daughter)

Name: Minnie Maria Murphy
Record Type: Baptism
Born 7th Oct 1893
Baptism Date: 19 Jul 1894
Father's Name: Joseph William Murphy (stonemason)
Mother's name: Mary Murphy
Parish or Poor Law Union: Battersea St John (Hibbert Street)
Borough: Wandsworth
Register Type: Parish Registers
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Death for Minnie: (Birth date 1 day out from baptism)

First name(s) MINNIE MARIA
Last name MURPHY
Gender Female
Birth day 6th October 1893
Death quarter 4
Death year 1979
District WANDSWORTH
County London
Volume 15
Page 1264
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007

And Rosa's baptism:

Name: Rosa Helena Murphy
Record Type: Baptism
Born 7th April 1892
Baptism Date: 9 Jun 1892
Father's Name: Joseph William Murphy (stonemason)
Mother's name: Mary Murphy
Parish or Poor Law Union: Battersea St John (Hibbert St.)
Borough: Wandsworth
Register Type: Parish Registers
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Louisa Anne Murphy
Born 15th Dec 1884
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 11 Mar 1885
Father's Name: Joseph William Murphy (Stonemason)
Mother's name: Mary Murphy
Parish or Poor Law Union: Battersea Christ Church
Borough: Wandsworth
Register Type: Parish Registers

Goodness, this has to be them,
I know from conversations with my late Father there was a Rose. and a Minnie -
Who used to send presents at Christmas.
Joseph would have been away (journeyman stonemason)
Thankyou Gritty
:-D

Joseph is listed as John on the baptism of Florence- but address matches 1881 census:

Florence Mary Murphy
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 13 Aug 1880
Father's Name: John William Murphy (Stonemason)
Mother's name: Mary Murphy
Parish or Poor Law Union: Battersea St Philip (9 Palmerstone Terrace)
Borough: Wandsworth
Register Type: Parish Registers
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Name: William Frederick Murphy
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 25 Feb 1881
Father's Name: Joseph William Murphy (stonemason)
Mother's name: Mary Murphy
Parish or Poor Law Union: Battersea St Philip
Borough: Wandsworth
Register Type: Parish Registers
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Name: Louisa Anne Murphy
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 11 Mar 1885
Father's Name: Joseph William Murphy (stonemason)
Mother's name: Mary Murphy
Parish or Poor Law Union: Battersea Christ Church
Borough: Wandsworth
Register Type: Parish Registers

Marriage for Louisa:
Name: Louisa Ann Murphy
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Age: 24
Spouse: William Samuel Garwood
Spouse Age: 25
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 5 Jun 1909
Parish: St Michael and All Angels, Southfields
Borough: Wandsworth
Father Name: Joseph William Murphy Stonemason (deceased)
Spouse Father: Samuel Garwood
Register Type: Parish Register
Witnesses: William Frederick Murphy and Emma Murphy

I wonder where Rosa and Minnie were in 1901? and why they weren't with the rest of the family?