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Thanks to every body for all your input and thank you Gritty I can put this to bed with a really happy outcome which I would of continued to struggle without your help.
Many Thanks Dale :-D

Dale didn't have the marriage cert for Joseph Swinborn and Mary Wilson. He pm'd that he'd made a mistake- the Joseph that married Mary Wilson was born in 1890, his death in 1963 is the one I posted above.

The death in Exeter is for the Joseph born in 1904- he married in Devon under the name Harry Swinborne to Emily Margaret Mary Davey on 28th December 1925. This is confirmed by military records (FMP).

Dale was confirming details before putting it on the boards. I think is now able to find the information he needs.

I thought in my lookings I did see a Joseph Henry .trying to find again what I saw doesn't show other than that death

Think I may have had the alternative on when I was on FMP

Connection??
Joseph (aka Harry)Swinbank born 1905 Scotland married in Exeter Devon 1925 to Emily Davey born 1904-1980
This Joseph died Exeter Devon 1972

Info off tree on ancestry so please check.

The Joseph Swinbank born 1895 - 7/10/1916 to David 1872-1949
David was the brother to Robert Swinbank 1880-1958 who had Joseph 1904.

Maryb.

Yes Gritty that is the Joseph who married Mary cheers!! :-D

Based on the 1904 birth that you gave, i don't see any other possible deaths- however just throwing out another thought-

Do you have the marriage cert of Joseph Swinbank and Mary Wilson? Are you 100% that the Joseph born 1904 is the same Joseph on the marriage cert? What age did he give/ father's name etc.

This death could explain why Mary was able to marry again in '64:

Name: Joseph Swinbank
Birth Date: abt 1891
Date of Registration: Mar 1963
Age at Death: 72
Registration district: Durham Western
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 1a
Page: 1019

Only a thought!

I know what you are saying but my Joseph Swinbank had no Henry in his name and my Joseph was born in 1904 records prove that. I have also his date of birth re enrolement at his local school Jan. 07 1904.
Of course I will keep an open mind and see if there was a Joseph Henry born in the 1905 period in the Devon area.
This one is a tester. The youngest daughter was adamant no divorce ever took place.
But once again thanks for all your help it is appreciated...if anything turns up I will answer.

So Rose was correct- well found Rose ;)

Unless Joseph Swinbank died in Scotland, or abroad, I still think the 1972 death needs looking into (regardless of the fact Mary remarried- she may have obtained a divorce a later in life, or assumed Swinbank had died).

Dale, you haven't really acknowledged the 1972 death- don't you think the 7th Jan birth date is too much of a coincidence?

Sorry if I have caused confusion this is my Joseph
Births Mar 1904
SWINBANK Joseph Auckland 10a 227

He was born Jan 7th 1904 I apologise for misleading anyone unknowingly.
I have cleared up all the family details re children. Mary H left Joseph c1934 took up with Joseph Shield had 5 children to Joseph Shield. Joseph Shield died in 1962.
Then in 1964 Mary H Swinbank married a Bob Brand!! So I assume Joseph must of died for Mary to remarry again as that would of been Bigamy!!!
But I still cannot find a death for Joseph Swinbank born Jan 7th 1904. :-(

These are the only Joseph Swinbank birth registrations that appear between 1893 and 1910 :


Births Mar 1893

Swinbank Joseph Henry Newcastle T. 10b 57

Births Mar 1904
SWINBANK Joseph Auckland 10a 227

Births Sep 1910
SWINBANK Joseph Tynemouth 10b 291

The DOB on a death registration is only as good as the informant's knowledge.

It does seem a bit of a co-incidence that there were two Joseph Swinbanks celebrating a birthday on 7 January.

You don't make it clear- are you confirming Rose was correct? :)

I know you've already seen the death below- but thought it was a coincidence his date of birth being 7th Jan- that along with the fact I don't see a Joseph Henry Swinbank born in 1905, still makes this a possible.

DEATH:
Joseph Henry Swinbank
Birth Date: 7 Jan 1905
Date of Registration: Dec 1972
Age at Death: 67
Registration district: Exeter
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 7a
Page: 1141

NOTE: Your original post gives Joseph's birth date as 1st Jan, yet your last post gives it as 7th Jan.

I have resolved the children all I want now folks is when Joseph Swinbank born Jan 7th1904 Auckland County Durham died date of death would be after 1933!!

I doubt they were married- that's why there appears to be two registrations. When parents aren't married the birth of their child appears twice in the indexes- once under mother's name and once under fathers.

Looked at the children of Shield and Swinbank all children have the same first names and initials....wonder if the registrar has made a mistake or has the wife of Joseph as Rose said end of Joseph 1934 took up with Jossie Shield and had these children many perms to look at fascinating really Swinbank's being my near relations and also friendly with the Shield family exciting stuff or what?
Watch this space!!!
Cannot find a marriage for Shield/Wilson maybe try Swinbank!!

Got to stop the rumour mill!!! Rose the Shield family have nothing to do with the Swinbank family. I lived and was brought up in the same village as the Shield family just a coincidence that their mother was called Wilson so SHIELD nothing to do with Swinbank!!

Just seen it now Gritty as well as your PM thanks every one for trying to solve this mystery I will keep you all posted!!!

Dale- did you see Clicks reply??

Joseph may not be the father of all 6 children. Christopher, John, Doreen and Margaret are all registered under the name SHIELD as well as Swinbank. (Christopher's details are posted above).

Do you have the birth certificates of these children? It may be worth trying to trace their families as they might know what happened to Joseph.

Details for child John:

Birth:
Name: John J Shield (also under Swinbank- same vol/ page no.)
Mother's Maiden Surname: Wilson
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1939
Registration district: Durham Western
Inferred County: Durham
Volume Number: 10a
Page Number: 349

Death:
name(s) JOHN JOSEPH SHIELD
Gender Male
Birth 18 January 1939
Death quarter 4
Death year 2006
District DURHAM
District number 4421B
Register number CD2B
Entry number 092
Date of registration mm/yy 12/06
County Durham

Christopher Henry Shield

birth: (also under Swinbank)
Christopher H Shield
Mother's Maiden Surname: Wilson
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1935
Registration district: Auckland
Inferred County: Durham
Volume Number: 10a
Page Number: 339

marriage:
Christopher H Shield
Spouse Surname: Best
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1962
Registration district: Durham Western
Inferred County: Durham
Volume Number: 1a
Page Number: 1874

Death:
Christopher Henry Shield
Birth Date: 20 Jun 1935
Date of Registration: Oct 1991
Age at Death: 56
Registration district: Durham Western
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 1
Page: 1529

I've pm'd details of possible child of Christopher- it may be worth contacting them to find out more.

I have seen all this all I want to know if anyone can help in finding a deth for Joseph Swinbank born in Coundon County Durham in 1904 Jan 7th. I know he married had 6 children last one born 1942 just trying to trace his death.
Henry was never in his name I thank you all for your valiant efforts just hoping some one out there had any real cast iron info as I have I think exhausted all avenues