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Mary

Would you have been told if the children were adopted?

Bear in mind that you had John's birth as c1924, which does not appear to be correct, so could it be that any other info you have been given by ???? is equally inaccurate?

Perhaps your informant confused marriage year and birth year for John?

Maybe?

1940

Name: Norah Miller
Respondent: Yes
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1901
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birthplace: England
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Inmate
Home in 1940: White Plains, Westchester, New York
Map of Home in 1940: View Map
Street: 121 Westchester Avenue
Inferred Residence in 1935: New York, Manhattan, New York
Residence in 1935: New York, Manhattan, New York
Resident on farm in 1935: No
Citizenship: Naturalized
Sheet Number: 2A
Institution: New York Hospital Westchester Division Hospital For Mental Diseases
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: High School, 4th year
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 03

As far as I am aware children not adopted

But I really appreciate the time and trouble you have taken for me

Thanks once again

Mary

First name(s) AUDREY I
Last name MILLER
Gender Female
Age 17
Birth year 1934
Departure year 1951
Departure day 13
Departure month 9
Departure port SOUTHAMPTON
Destination port NEW YORK
Destination NEW YORK
Country United States
Destination country United States
Ship name GENERAL ALEXANDER M PATCH
City SOUTHAMPTON
Ship destination port NEW YORK
Ship destination country USA
Number of passengers 0
Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Record collection Passenger lists
Collections from Australasia, Great Britain, Ireland, United States
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State First name(s) Last name Title
- JOHN M MILLER -

Going to New York.. not Canada

John is a US citizen, and this is an American Forces transportation

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1925
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
MILLER John BARRY Norah Chorley Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston RO/48/119

SNAG

Can't find child's birth........adopted?

There's also this one

Name: Audrey I Miller
Departure Date: 13 Sep 1951
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Destination Port: New York, USA
Ship Name: America
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Shipping line: United States Lines
Official Number: 239738
Master: John W Anderson


Travelling with John M aged 9 and sponsored by James C Miller

wow Jacqueline that is fantastic . many many thanks

Mary

First name(s) JOHN
Last name MILLER
Gender Male
Age 35
Birth year 1898
Marital status M
Occupation FARMING
Departure year 1933
Departure day 19
Departure month 6
Departure port LIVERPOOL
Destination port MONTREAL
Destination MONTREAL
Country CANADA
Destination country CANADA
Ship name DUCHESS OF YORK
Ship official number 161202
Ship master's first name R N
Ship master's last name STUART
Shipping line CANADIAN PACIFIC
City LIVERPOOL
Ship destination port MONTREAL
Ship destination country CANADA
Ship square feet 10196
Ship registered tonnage 11815
Number of passengers 122
Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Record collection Passenger lists
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- NORAH MILLER - Image Transcription WIFE Age 31
- AUDREY MILLER - Image Transcription CHILD Age 2
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UK ADDRESS

20, New Market Street, CHORLEY

Thanks for all that Jacqueline much appreciatedI will look at it later. At moment got builders in and what with all the mess and noise I am finding it hard to concentrate.

Thanks again for all your help

Mary

If the above is the right family, it's hardly likely that a child would be born to that mother in 1924

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Flash Green Higher Wheelton, Wheelton, Lancashire, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Joseph Miller Head Married Male 47 1864 Lanc Wheelton Labourer Printworks Transcription
Mary Miller Wife Married Female 41 1870 Lanc Adlington - Transcription
William Miller Son Single Male 20 1891 Lanc Wheelton Labourer Printworks Transcription
Ann Miller Daughter Single Female 17 1894 Lanc Withnell Labourer Paper Mill Transcription
John Miller Son Single Male 13 1898 Lanc Withnell Labourer Bleach Works Transcription
Mary Alice Miller Daughter - Female 8 1903 Lanc Withnell - Transcription
Frank Miller Son - Male 0 1911 Lanc Wheelton

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1891
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
MILLER William Brindle/Withnell Preston CROOK BR/21/95
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1894
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
MILLER Ann Brindle/Withnell Preston CROOK BR/23/18
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1897
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
MILLER John Brindle/Withnell Preston CROOK BR/24/49
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1903
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
MILLER Edward Brindle/Withnell Preston CROOK BR/26/41
MILLER Mary Alice Brindle/Withnell Preston CROOK BR/26/27
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1905
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
MILLER Doris Brindle/Withnell Preston CROOK BR/26/87
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1906
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
MILLER Albert Brindle/Withnell Preston CROOK BR/27/18
MILLER Leonard Brindle/Withnell Preston CROOK BR/27/25
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1908
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
MILLER Frances Brindle/Withnell Preston CROOK BR/27/86
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1909
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
MILLER Edith Brindle/Withnell Preston CROOK BR/28/30
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1910
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
MILLER Frank Brindle/Withnell Preston CROOK BR/28/60
MILLER Lena Brindle/Withnell Preston CROOK BR/28/59
MILLER Lucy Brindle/Withnell Preston CROOK BR/28/41

Obviously, not all of the above are the products of one marriage

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1891
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
MILLER Joseph CROOK Mary Chorley Register Office or Registrar Attended Preston RO/23/102

The ONLY John Miller registered with MMN Crook was born in 1946

If this (********) was your father......he did not have a registered full sibling named John born after 1911


Births Mar 1913 (>99%)

Miller Edith M Crook Chorley 8e 811 Scan available - click to view


Births Mar 1914 (>99%)

MILLER Angela Crook Chorley 8e 804 Scan available - click to view


Births Mar 1915 (>99%)

**********MILLER Richard Crook Chorley 8e 790 Scan available - click to view


Births Dec 1915 (>99%)

Miller Tom Crook Chorley 8e 610 Scan available - click to view


Births Mar 1917 (>99%)

Miller Vincent A Crook Chorley 8e 582 Scan available - click to view


Births Jun 1918 (>99%)

Miller Amy Crook Chorley 8e 550 Scan available - click to view


Births Sep 1919 (>99%)

Miller Rose M Crook Chorley 8e 544

Have you looked for John's marriage?


Have you looked for births of children?
You know their names, so should be easy enough to find.

There is quite a lot you can do yourself to establish the facts

Sorry for delay in replying.

Unfortunately do not know Johns wifes name or even when they went to Canada . can only assume late 40s early 50s.

John was born in 1924 and mothers maiden name was Crook . first name Mary and fathers name was Joseph.


Mary

Have you found their outgoing passage to Canada

Why are you unsure of his birth year?

You should be able to find the info on freebmd.

If he was your father's full brother, you'll know their mother's maiden name

Do you know his wife's name, and his year and place of birth?

Have you looked to see if he is in any trees on here or e.g ancestry?

Thank-you