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Thank you to those who have replied. I am unfamiliar with this site, so just finding my way. Douglas Leitch

Extract from a PM

"A daughter of Annie (Curtis), Irene married Bicknell after the 2nd war and had a family. I am trying to establish contact with that line."

So it looks as if Reggie is on the right track.

The elder of Irene's sons is on the ER to 2013

First name(s) RALPH FREDERICK
Last name BICKNELL
Gender Male
Birth day 12
Birth month 1
Birth year 1907
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1998
District WEST SURREY
District number 7611A
Entry number 251
County Surrey
Country England
DOR 1298

Suggest you obtain a copy of IRENE's death cert.............one of her sons is likely to have been the informant

Marriages Jun 1948 (>99%)
Bicknell Ralph F Mares Surrey S. W. 5g 2001
Mares Irene Bicknell Surrey S.W. 5g 2001


Marriages Jun 1934 (>99%)
Curtis Irene Mares Hendon 3a 1221
Mares Arthur E Curtis Hendon 3a 1221


MARES, ARTHUR EDWARD

Rank: Gunner
Service No: 2568043
Date of Death: 17/03/1944
Age: 33
Regiment/Service: Royal Artillery 8 Medium Regt.

Grave Reference 8. B. 23.
Cemetery
IMPHAL WAR CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of Charles Henry and C. Mares; husband of Irene Mares, of Cranleigh, Surrey.

NO children from the first marriage

I sincerely hope that Douglas isn't going to come back and tell us he knew all this already!!!

First name(s) IRENE
Last name BICKNELL
Gender Female
Birth day 12
Birth month 8
Birth year 1912
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1999
District WEST SURREY
District number 7611B
Entry number 266
County Surrey
Country England
DOR 1099

This woman had two sons with Bicknell............their births are on freebmd.

Births Dec 1917 (>99%)
Curtis Betty Blay Poole 5a 314

So Marcus didn't wait for his first wife to die.............................

Further children pre-dated his marriage to BLAY

Births Jun 1919 (>99%)
Curtis Patrick Blay Alresford 2c 276
Births Sep 1920 (>99%)
Curtis Douglas Blay Maidenhead 2c 877
Births Sep 1923 (>99%)
Curtis Eric C Blay Maidenhead 2c 724

First name(s) JOHN STRATHMORE
Last name LEITCH
Gender Male
Birth day 17
Birth month 8
Birth year 1913
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1976
District BRIGHTON
County Sussex
Country England
Volume 18
Page 0146

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First name(s) BETTY
Last name LEITCH
Gender Female
Birth day 9
Birth month 9
Birth year 1917
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1996
District BRIGHTON
District number 4521A
Entry number 136
County Sussex
Country England
DOR 1296

Deaths Sep 1917 (>99%)
Curtis Annie 30 Alton 2c 171

Births Sep 1912 (>99%)
Curtis Irene Spreadbury Bristol 6a 349
Births Jun 1914 (>99%)
CURTIS Leslie C Spreadbury Pewsey 5a 272
Births Jun 1915 (>99%)
Curtis Jack Spreadbury Andover 2c 438

The Pewsey birth is probably to this couple

Marriages Mar 1908 (>99%)
CURTIS Joseph Alexander Warminster 5a 210
SPREADBURY Annie Warminster 5a 210

Births Sep 1911 (>99%)
Curtis Edwin C Spreadbury Daventry 3b 154

Royal Tank Corps Enlistment Records, 1919-1934 Transcription
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First Name Ronald Frederick
Last Name Curtis
Soldier Number 315939
Regiment Royal Tank Corps
Year 1926
Date of enlistment 16 Aug 1926
Place of enlistment -
Age 16
Year Of Birth 1910
Date of birth -
Parish Daventry
Town Weedon
County Hampshire
Country England

The Houchins in 1911 are each recorded as 'odd boy in house'...........weird!

One born in Weedon, Northants......the other in Killarney

As this is a listing of people living in barracks, I don't actually think the Houchins are in the same family as the Curtises.

There are no delineation marks, as there are on conventional census returns

The OP's MMN was Curtis

He has/had an older brother.

These were their parents

Marriages Jun 1941 (>99%)
Curtis Elizabeth Leitch Luton 3b 1575
Leitch John S M Curtis Luton 3b 1575

Births Sep 1913 (>99%)
Leitch John S M Mackay W Ham 4a 808

He is in Douglas's tree

According to an Ancestry tree, he married Annie Spreadbury who died in Alton Hampshire in 1917.

Deaths Sep 1917 (>99%)
Curtis Annie 30 Alton 2c 171

1911 England Census about Annie Curtis
Name: Annie Curtis
Age in 1911: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Winchester, Hampshire
Civil Parish: Weedon Beck
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Street address: Weedon Barracks, Weedon, Northants
Marital Status: Married
Registration district: Daventry
Registration District Number: 164
Sub-registration district: Weedon
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Piece: 8457
Household Members:
Name Age
Annie Curtis 24
Ronald Fredrick Curtis 1
Leonard Houchin 18
Joseph Houchin 19

Both Houchins are named as sons, which seems a little odd!

Ronald Frederick Curtis seems to be their only child.

Where do Bicknells fit in with all of this?

Feed back please, and tell us which, when and where a Curtis married a Bicknell,

Was the 1926 marriage Marcus' second?

As far as I can see, there were only 2 births to that marriage - 1934 & 1937, neither are likely to have been your parent.

Yes - probably

1911 England Census about Marcus Colburn Curtis
Name: Marcus Colburn Curtis
Age in 1911: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Birth Place: Hammersmith, London, England
Civil Parish: Weedon Beck
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Street address: Weedon Barracks, Weedon, Northants
Marital Status: Married <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Military Unit: 16th Lancers
Registration district: Daventry
Registration District Number: 164
Sub-registration district: Weedon

England & Wales marriages 1837-2008
First Name MARCUS COLBORNE
Last Name CURTIS
Gender Male
Year 1909
Image Quarter 1
Country England
County Surrey
District FARNHAM
District Number
Registry Number
Volume 2A
Page 217
Line Number 11

He married either Nellie HUBBARD or Annie SPREADBURY

Two members have Florence in GR trees..........the aforementioned David and a 'Steve'

Both have very early membership numbers, so may no longer be using the site, but you can find out by sending contact messages.

Marriages Dec 1926 (>99%)
Blay Florence K Curtis Southampton 2c 110
Curtis Marcus C Blay Southampton 2c 110


First name(s) MARCUS COLBURN
Last name CURTIS
Gender Male
Birth day 23
Birth month 12
Birth year 1882
Age -
Death quarter 3
Death year 1978
District HORSHAM
County Sussex
Country England
Volume 18
Page 1756

Have you tried looking for them?

The phone book is free on line

Have you tried searching all member trees (under "search" above).

As well as yourself there is someone called David who has Marcus Curtis born 1882 in Fulham in his tree. You can contact David direct.

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