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im figurng he came bk alone because his daughter Elaine C payne was born on 16/8/1959,
also around 1962 malcolm was offered married quarters at RAF sealand Chester, (i m not sure if he actually took them as my Nanna Brenda Gregson, had left him around 1962 ish)

Death registrations online only go up to 2006, and there is no death with that dob.

However, I'm really sorry (and this may be totally unconnected) there is an obituary for a Malcolm Charles Payne who died 17/10/2008 but it does not give his age. Google his full name + obituary and you should find it - along with details of his wife and a son. It looks like they married in 1990 but possibly been together for a considerable time before this.

The only way to be sure would be to try to order the death cert to see if dob is correct - as you have to give an age they should advise you if it isn't a match.

If it is a match, his wife is still alive living in Wales. Like I say, this may be totally wrong person - with no age given on the obit it is impossible to tell. I'm only posting this info as you have reached a dead end with all other efforts.

Thank you very much
i think i have found it, would i have to ring bridgend registry office for death cert?
sorry for all the questions :/ and also i couldnt find a marriage for him and his new wife

To order the death certificate go to GRO - it costs £9.25, just input the details you know - including date of death and his age, which would be 69 if this is the right person.

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

I'll send you a PM with the possible marriage, and details of her previous marriage etc - I don't want to post on the board as it is not secure. Check out your messages in a little while.

thank you very much :)

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Thank you to everyone who helped me out, you did in 2 days what me an my mum couldnt do in 15 years. THANK YOU SO MUCH

:-DThanks Tasha, I take it you are going to get the death cert and if correct contact the second wife. It can't hurt, she was an adult when they got together so must have had some inclination of his past!

I would be interested in whether the dc is the right person though.

Take care of yourselves, atb
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