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1911 Wales Census
about Thomas Nicholas Name:Thomas Nicholas
Age in 1911:25
Estimated birth year:abt 1886
Relation to Head:Head
Gender:Male
Birth Place:Maesteg, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish:Higher Llangynwyd
County/Island:Glamorgan
Country:Wales
Street address: 8 Barnads Street Nantyffyllon Glam
Marital Status:Married
Years Married:1
Estimated Marriage Year:1910
Occupation:Colliery Hanlier Bilow Ground
Registration district:Bridgend
Sub-registration district:Maesteg

Household Members:

Thomas Nicholas 25
Beatrice Nicholas 18
Muriel Nicholas 1

Marriages Jun 1909 (>99%)
LAVERCOMBE Beatrice Bridgend 11a 1490
NICHOLAS Thomas Bridgend 11a 1490


Births Mar 1912 (>99%)
Nicholas Violet A Lavercombe Bridgend 11a 1891

Births Dec 1913 (>99%)
Nicholas Beatrice Lavercombe Bridgend 11a 1838

Births Mar 1916 (>99%)
Nicholas David J Lavercombe Bridgend 11a 1622

Births Mar 1918 (>99%)
Nicholas Thomas Lavercombe Bridgend 11a 1594

Births Mar 1920 (>99%)
Nicholas Joseph Lavercombe Bridgend 11a 2166

Births Mar 1922 (>99%)
Nicholas Elizabeth B Lavercombe Bridgend 11a 1828

Births Jun 1924 (>99%)
Nicholas Irene Lavercombe Bridgend 11a 1611

Births Jun 1926 (>99%)
Nicholas Leslie R Lavercombe Bridgend 11a 1531

Daughter Charlotte Ann...

Marriages Dec 1900 (>99%)

Brain Aaron Boundy Swansea 11a 1664
Nicholas Charlotte Ann Swansea 11a 1664


1911 Wales Census
about Charlotte Ann Brain Name:Charlotte Ann Brain
Age in 1911:34
Estimated birth year:abt 1877
Relation to Head:Wife
Gender:Female
Birth Place:Maesteg, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish:Higher Llangynwyd
County/Island:Glamorgan
Country:Wales
Street address:13 Brown St Nantyffylton
Marital Status:Married
Years Married:10
Estimated Marriage Year:1901
Registration district:Bridgend
Registration District Number:591
Sub-registration district:Maesteg

Household Members:

Aaron Boundy Brain 38 (Collier Hewer) Derby Derbyshire
Charlotte Ann Brain 34
Blodwen Mory Francis 14
Joseph William Brain 10
Thomas John Brain 8
David Frances Brain 6
Edith Maria Brain 4
David Nicholas Brain 2
Ethel May Brain Under 1 Month
(7 children born and living)

1901 Wales Census
about Aaron Brandy Brain Name:Aaron Brandy Brain
Age in 1901:28
Estimated birth year:abt 1873
Relation:Boarder
Gender:Male
Where born:Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish:Llangynwyd
Ecclesiastical parish:Llangynwyd and Maesteg St Cynwyd
Town:Maesteg
County/Island:Glamorgan
Country:Wales

Household Members:


Name

Age

Henry Jno Howay 30
Louisa Howay 29
David J Francis 4 (Adopted Son)
Blodwen M Francis 3 (Adopted Daughter) <<<<<<<<
Aaron Brandy Brain 28 (Coal Miner Hewer)
Charlotte A Brain 24
Joseph Wm Brain 2 Months
Jannie Hy Brain 22 >>>??? Looks more like Daniel on the image

Looking at the 1911 census..........it seems Aaron and Charlotte took on Blodwen Mary Francis the adopted daughter.


Twins in 1913.........

Births Mar 1913 (>99%)
Brain Willie F Nicholas Bridgend 11a 1801
Brain Winifred Nicholas Bridgend 11a 1801

Births Jun 1915 (>99%)
BRAIN Florence O Nicholas Bridgend 11a 1867

Births Dec 1919 (>99%)
Brain Ivy D Nicholas Bridgend 11a 1866

Births Dec 1921 (>99%)
Brain Dilys M Nicholas Bridgend 11a 1720

Odd that Mother in Law Charlotte Howells claims to have been married 14 years on the 1911 census.........

She still appears as Charlotte Nicholas on the 1901 census...


1901 Wales Census
about Charlotte Nicholas Name:Charlotte Nicholas
Age in 1901:45
Estimated birth year:abt 1856
Relation:Head
Gender:Female
Where born: Maes Teg, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish:Ystradyfodwg
Ecclesiastical parish:Tylorstown
Town:Pontygwaith
County/Island:Glamorgan

Household Members:

Charlotte Nicholas 45 (Widow) Housekeeper/Domestic
David John Nicholas 20 (Haulier Below Ground)
Thomas Nicholas 15 (Coal Miner Hewer)

There does appear to be an appropriate marriage in 1896..........

Marriages Sep 1896 (>99%)
Howells Thomas Bridgend 11a 1154
NICHOLAS Charlotte Bridgend 11a 1154

Husband Josephs death...

Deaths Mar 1892 (>99%)
Nicholas Joseph 42 Bridgend 11a 490

Why has the same census been posted twice this morning when it was posted a couple of days ago?

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1911 census
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First Name JOSEPH JENKIN
Last Name EDWARDS
Relationship SON
Condition -
Gender Male
Year Of Birth 1908
Age 3
Occupation -
Address 16 JOHN ST NANTYFFYLLON
Parish HIGHER LLANGYNWYD
County Glamorganshire
Country WALES
Where Born GLAMORGAN MAESTEG
Year Of Marriage -
Years Of Marriage -
Archive Reference RG14
Piece Number 32531
Census Reference RG14PN32531 RG78PN1858 RD591 SD1 ED6 SN140
Registration District BRIDGEND
Registration District Number 591
Sub District MAESTEG
Enumeration District 6
SubDistrict Number 1
Other Household Members
First Name Last Name Relationship Year Of Birth Age Where Born
DAVID HENRY EDWARDS SON 1911 0 GLAMORGAN MAESTEG
ELIZABETH HARRIET EDWARDS DAUGHTER 1909 2 GLAMORGAN MAESTEG I
EVELYN MAYD EDWARDS DAUGHTER 1905 6 GLAMORGAN MAESTEG I
FRANCIS MARY EDWARDS DAUGHTER 1904 7 GLAMORGAN MAESTEG

HARRIET EDWARDS WIFE 1883 28 GLAMORGAN MAESTEG>>>>
THOMAS EDWARDS HEAD 1882 29 GLAMORGAN MAESTEG >>>>>
THOMAS JOHN EDWARDS SON 1903 8 GLAMORGAN MAESTEG
CHARLOTTE HOWELLS MOTHER-IN LAW 1855 56 GLAMORGAN MAESTEG

Thank you jax, I will contact that tree owner now!! :-)

\These were born after 1911 but there were two Edwards/Nicholas marriages so some could belong to the other couple


Births Mar 1913 (>99%)

Edwards Mary C Nicholas Bridgend 11a 1899

Births Sep 1913 (>99%)

EDWARDS Dillwyn J Nicholas Bridgend 11a 1893

Births Jun 1915 (>99%)

EDWARDS Nancy Nicholas Bridgend 11a 1856

Births Jun 1917 (>99%)

Edwards Leigh C Nicholas Bridgend 11a 1643

Births Mar 1920 (>99%)

Edwards Leonard C Nicholas Bridgend 11a 2123

Births Jun 1921 (>99%)

Edwards Margaret J Nicholas Bridgend 11a 2011

Births Mar 1923 (>99%)

Edwards Lionel S Nicholas Bridgend 11a 1620

Births Dec 1924 (>99%)

Edwards Tessie C Nicholas Bridgend 11a 1486

Births Mar 1926 (>99%)

Edwards Randolph R Nicholas Bridgend 11a 1446

\there is a tree on Ancestry that has this family but your mother is not included


Family Members




Parents

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Thomas Edwards1881 – 1926
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Harriet Nicholas1883 – 1966

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Thomas John Edwards1903 –
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Frances Mary Edwards1904 –
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Evelyn Maud Edwards1905 –
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Joseph Jenkin Edwards1908 – 1970
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Elizabeth Harriet Edwards1909 –
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David Henry Edwards1910 –
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Leonard Caudry Edwards1920 – 1988

The tree owner is decended from Leonard and last logged in 4 months ago

If you don't use Ancestry you should be able to view public trees here for free and possibly send messages

http://www.mundia.com/gb/

Thomas and Harriet did have alot of children but my mother is not listed there so I guess, had not been born yet. So I guess all these other chldren are my aunties and uncles. Very humbling.

Have just read your info on Thomas Edwards with the address and everything. Fantastic!! :-)

Hello patchem. I have now got a copy of my mum's marriage certificate and her father was Thomas Edwards 1882-19?? born Bridgend. (He died before mum was married) and her mum is therefore Harriet Nicholas 1883-19?? born Bridgend. Thomas's father was Jenkin Thomas Edwards but not sure who he married.
It seems that there are 3 members on here with Harriet's details but I don't think they are members any more so I can't find out anything. :-( I'm not sure where to go from here and I added a new post on the community hoping that someone may have some suggestions.
Thank you for your help, I am humbled by the time you have all spent on this..

Births Sep 1902
Edwards Thomas John Bridgend 11a 901

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Births Dec 1903
EDWARDS Frances May Bridgend 11a 822

Which one?
Births Mar 1905
Edwards Evelyn Maud Bridgend 11a 974
Edwards Evelyn Maud Bridgend 11a 911

Births Jun 1908
Edwards Joseph Jenkin Bridgend 11a 943

Births Jun 1909
EDWARDS Elizabeth Harriet Bridgend 11a 986a

Births Dec 1910
EDWARDS David H Bridgend 11a 901

Just for background:
1891 Wales Census
Joseph Nicholas Age: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Charlotte Nicholas
Gender: Male Where born: Maesteg, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish: Higher Llangynwyd Ecclesiastical parish: Llangynwyd
Town: Maes teg (Maestag) County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales
Registration district: Bridgend Sub-registration district: Maesteg
ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Piece: 4449 Folio: 20 Page Number: 33
Joseph Nicholas 42
Charlotte Nicholas 34
Charlotte Ann Nicholas 13
David John Nicholas 10
xxxxxHarriet Nicholas 8
Thomas Nicholas 5
Richard Brown 65
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4449; Folio: 20; Page: 33; GSU Roll: 6099559.

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1911 Wales Census
Thomas Edwards Age in 1911: 29 Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male
Birth Place: Maesteg, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish: Higher Llangynwyd
County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales
Street address: 16 John St Nantyffyllon
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 9 Estimated Marriage Year: 1902
Occupation: Coal Miner Hewer Registration district: Bridgend
Registration District Number: 591 Sub-registration district: Maesteg
ED, institution, or vessel: 06 Household schedule number: 140 Piece: 32531
Thomas Edwards 29
Marriet Edwards 28 Everyone born Maesteg
Thomas John Edwards 8
Provis May Edwards 7 Francis Mary?
Evelyn Mayd Edwards 6
Joseph Jenkin Edwards 3
Eliza Devnet Edwards 2 Elizabeth Harriet?
David Henry Edwards 5/12
Charlotte Howells 56 Mother-in-law married 14 years no children
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 32531; Schedule Number: 140.

So quite a lot of siblings for your Mother if they continued having children for 22 years of marriage (or more)

So this marriage;

Marriages Mar 1902
Edwards Thomas Bridgend 11a 1060
Nicholas Harriet Bridgend 11a 1060

How old were they at marriage?

And your mother was born 22 years after the marriage?

Further to our previous conversations, I have now discovered to my disappointment that I have been researching the wrong names!!!! Grrr, How could I be so stupid?? My mother's mum and dad's names were Harriet Nicholas who's dad was Joseph Nicholas and her dad's name was Thomas John Edward who's dad was Jenkin Thomas Edwards. The married in Llangynwyd, Glamorganshire in 1902. No wonder no one was responding to me!!

Just to let you all know, I'm not ignoring your comments, I am away for a couple of days but will resume this thread next week.
Thank you

Carole,

If Randolph is Tessie's brother, then there's a possible son called Mark who has him on his tree on this site.

Go to Search and Search All Member Trees at the top to look for Randolph.

Rose

Hello Rose. My mistake again. Its Ernest John Skinner, not Charles. And I have ordered my mother's birth certificate already. And Stuart, I will double check the Middle name of Annie however, it was the only Annie in that area to marry an Edwards which was my mother's maiden name so I am going on this, Thank you again for all your help.
Carolee

Carole,

I still think you should get your mum's birth cert.

How accurate are the names you have for your grandparents?

You say Ernest's middle name was Charles but the marriage is for a Ernest J and there's no birth for him that fits in Bideford.

Rose