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Many thanks Shirley,Joonie Cloonie and GlitterBaby.

You have found the Napier I was looking for . Son of Horation, wife Lilian, dau Charlotte etc.

I have inherited the autobiography of his brother who died in South Africa 1969 and have spent ages working on it. Now I need to find a relative. Thanks again.

If you were referring to Shirley's post re the year and area of births or marriages, there isn't really a problem.

As all helpers work together, it does help to have the basic details on the board so that other people can check, build on and in some cases give alternative possibilities.

Different sites have different rules. In GR's case, we are not permitted to post details about living people which could lead to identity theft. This is interpreted as the exact date of birth or marriage. Neither are we to give their contact details on the board, or such personal details which they may not wish to be found on an internet search.
Burke's Peerage and Debrettes publish information which is normally provided by the family.

There have been arguments in the past when there is a conflict between Australian Laws and those of the UK. As this is a UK owned and operated site, the UK laws apply.

Check out W F A Napier on the Australian white pages phone book.
http://www.whitepages.com.au/

Write - Don't phone! It may just be a huge coincidence anyway

Thanks Rose. i see it does give lots of info on the childen too

Joonie
I HAVENT posted any info that can identify the son unless someone looks further on online BMDS

his son
Name: William Francis A Napier
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1963
State: Western Australia


he is a forest worker and looks like his wife is Rosemary


went to Australia in 1951

UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 about Mr William A Napier
Name: Mr William A Napier
Gender: Male
Age: 23
Birth Date: abt 1928
Departure Date: 16 May 1951
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Destination Port: Fremantle, Australia
Ship Name: New Australia
Search Ship Database: Search the 'New Australia' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Shaw Savill Line
Official Number: 162650

Shirley,

All their names and 2003 address are listed in that link I gave.

Rose

this is his son?
Name: Robert A P Napier
Mother's Maiden Surname: Peterson
1940

Married in 1983 Birmingham reg district

Still living in Sutton Coldfield with wife in 2003

his wife
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007 about Lilian Grey D Napier
Name: Lilian Grey D Napier
Birth Date: 12 Mar 1899
Date of Registration: Sep 1979
Age at Death: 80
Registration District: Evesham
Inferred County: Hereford and Worcester
Volume: 29
Page: 0212

daughter's death:

Name: Charlotte Esme M Rose
Birth Date: 5 Jan 1930
Date of Registration: Nov 2004
Age at Death: 74
Registration District: Sedgemoor
Inferred County: Somerset
Register Number: 76
District and Subdistrict: 723/1
Entry number: 190

Freebmd shows 5 Rose births with mother Napier; Ancestry shows one later one that would be to a later marriage.

That transcription is muddled. The image actually says:

Emily Caroline Napier was born:
RM College, York Town, Surrey
(she ran her place of birth over onto Archibald's line)

Archibald JR Napier was born:
Glasgow, Scotland

(and Margaret Wyatt was born in Liverpool)

Yes it would certainly help to have more details. If he had descendants, he must have married, but he didn't do it in England/Wales and scotlandspeople shows 5 marriages for the name Archibald Napier 1914-1930 but none with middle initial/name J/John as far as I can tell so if one is him he must have married wtihout his middle names. It does show an Archibald John birth 1894.

In 1901 he was in Port Glasgow

Archibald G Napier 38 Baker Capolaman or so says Ancestry
Annie Napier 39
Daniel M Napier 16
John Napier 14
Annie Napier 11
Matthew Napier 9
> Archie Napier 7
Mary Napier 2
John Napier 42
Walter G Wylie 22

Are you related to or in touch with descendants of any of his siblings?


edit, oops, I guess that isn't the right Archie in 1901 :-)

thepeerage entry says

'Archibald John Robert Napier was born on 19 March 1894.1 He was the son of Francis Horatio Napier and Margaret Elizabeth Horatia Hope.2 He married Lilian Grey Delphin Petersen, daughter of Christopher Delphin Petersen, on 12 November 1926.1 He died on 5 April 1967 at age 73.1
He was WW I as Captain Cheshire Regiment and RFC (wounded), WW II as Major RAOC.1 PWD Tanganyika Territory.1 He was educated Charterhouse and RMC Sandhurst.1'

Children and their children and addresses in 2003 are listed here:

http://www.thepeerage.com/p53912.htm

Rose

This transcript says born Glasgow
Name: Archibald J R Napier
Age in 1911: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Relation to Head: Cousin
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Glasgow
Civil Parish: Waterloo
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address: Boundary Oak, Wallis Rd, Waterlooville, Cosham, Hants
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Student Charter House
Registration District: Catherington
Registration District Number: 105
Sub-registration District: Horndean
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household Schedule Number: 116
Piece: 6169
Household Members:
Name Age
Emily Caroline Napier 50
Archibald J R Napier 17
Margaret A Wyatt 46
Jeanie Irene Wyatt 10

Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 6169; Schedule Number: 116.

This looks like him


1911 census transcription details for: Boundary Oak Walles Road Waterlooville Cosham

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National Archive Reference:
RG14PN6169 RG78PN289 RD105 SD1 ED5 SN116
Reg. District: Catherington
Sub District: Horndean
Parish: Waterloo
Enum. District: 5
Address: Boundary Oak Walles Road Waterlooville Cosham
County: Hampshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
NAPIER, Emily Caroline Head Single F 50 1861 Private Means R M College
NAPIER, Archibald J R Cousin Single M 17 1894 Student Charterhouse York Town Surrey
WYATT, Margaret A Servant Married F 46 1865 Housekeeper Domestic Glasgow Scotland Liverpool Lancs
WYATT, Jeanie Irene Boarder F 10 1901 School Southsea Hants

1911

I thought it was this one in Hampshire

Class: RG14; Piece: 6169; Schedule Number: 116.

So who was the informant on his death cert?

Name: Archibald J R Napier
Birth Date: abt 1894
Date of Registration: Jun 1967
Age at Death: 73
Registration District: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 226

As he was born in Scotland did he marry there ?

For a start is this him?

Name: Archibald Napier
Age in 1911: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Carlisle, Cumberland, England
Civil Parish: Carlisle
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Street Address: 6 Grasmere St Carlisle
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Apprentice
Registration District: Carlisle
Registration District Number: 574
Sub-registration District: St Cuthbert
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Piece: 31315
Household Members:
Name Age
Archibald Napier 46
Mary Elizabeth Napier 38
Archibald Napier 16
John Addison Napier 13
Stanley Napier 4

Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 31315.


Seems unlikely cos this is his birth no second names

Name: Archibald Napier
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1895
Registration District: Carlisle
Inferred County: Cumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 522

You need to give us all the info you have on him. Who he married etc or we will be spending time on what you already know

been trying for ages.