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11 Oct 2013 20:45 |
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my grandmother was kate tassel. she was married to albert wakeman. she died before I was born in 1944. do I have any relatives out there on my grandmothers side.
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11 Oct 2013 20:54 |
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Have you searched trees to see if anyone has her in theirs? here is the marriage which will help locate her in 1911 perhaps, as she has a middle initial.
Marriages Mar 1916 (>99%)
Tassell Kate M Wakeman Reigate 2a 408
Wakeman Albert J Tassell Reigate 2a 408
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11 Oct 2013 20:56 |
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Births Jun 1893 (>99%)
Tassell Kate Mercy Reigate 2a 179
1911 England Census about Kate Tassell
Name: Kate Tassell
Age in 1911: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Nutfield
Civil Parish: Nutfield
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address: Meadowcroft, Nutfield, Surrey
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Justifier Lanorston Monotype Works
Registration District: Reigate
Registration District Number: 37
Sub-registration District: Horley
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Household Schedule Number: 95
Piece: 3241
Household Members:
Name Age
Helen Tassell 57
Grace Tassell 20
Kate Tassell 18
Mrs Long 29
Jack Long 3/12
Charles Shoebridge 64
Edith Shoebridge 11
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11 Oct 2013 20:57 |
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Kate Mercy Tassell b 1893 Regiate
Have you done any research on 1901 and 1911 census to see if any siblings and then looked for any possible marriages for them
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11 Oct 2013 20:58 |
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Looks possible the sisters married two brothers?
Marriages Jun 1916 (>99%)
Tassell Grace [M_] Wakeman Reigate 2a 446
Wakeman Charles H Tassell Reigate 2a 446
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11 Oct 2013 21:00 |
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There are 5 Wakeman/Tassell births on Freebmd, which are likely to be to one or other sister.
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
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11 Oct 2013 21:38 |
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More sisters.
1901
Name: Kate Tassell
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Charles Shoebridge
Gender: Female
Where born: Nutfield, Surrey, England
Civil Parish: Nutfield
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter and St Paul
Town: Nutfield
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View Image
Registration District: Reigate
Sub-registration District: Horley
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 37
Piece: 629
Folio: 29
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Shoebridge 53 Widower
Herbert Shoebridge 19
Florence Shoebridge 18
Edith Shoebridge 1
Helen Tassell 48 Widow, Housekeeper
Florence Tassell 19
Ethel Tassell 13
Mabel Tassell 11
Grace Tassell 9
Kate Tassell 8
Frederic Roke 18
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11 Oct 2013 21:45 |
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Name: Kate M Wakeman
Birth Date: abt 1893
Date of Registration: Jun 1939
Age at Death: 46
Registration District: Wellington
Inferred County: Shropshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 864
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12 Oct 2013 10:07 |
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FMP version of 1901, which shows all birthplace info
1901 census
Person: TASSELL, Ethel Address: 1, The White House, Nutfield
SHOEBRIDGE, Charles Head Widower M 53 1848 Farm Labourer
Smarden, Kent VIEW
SHOEBRIDGE, Herbert Son Single M 19 1882 Fuller's Earth Quarryman
Smarden, Kent VIEW
SHOEBRIDGE, Florence Daughter Single F 18 1883
Smarden, Kent VIEW
SHOEBRIDGE, Edith Grand Daughter Single F 1 1900
Croydon, Surrey VIEW
TASSELL, Helen House Keeper Widow F 48 1853 House Keeper
Sutton Valance, Kent VIEW
TASSELL, Florence Daughter Single F 19 1882
Headcorn, Kent VIEW
TASSELL, Ethel Daughter Single F 13 1888
Nutfield, Surrey VIEW
TASSELL, Mabel Daughter Single F 11 1890
Nutfield, Surrey VIEW
TASSELL, Grace Daughter F 9 1892
Nutfield, Surrey VIEW
TASSELL, Kate Daughter F 8 1893
Nutfield, Surrey VIEW
ROKE, Frederic Boarder Single M 18 1883 Farm Milkman
Headley, Hampshire VIEW
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12 Oct 2013 10:17 |
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Welcome to the boards Kate.
Helen is a widow on the 1891 census.........and yet by the time of the 1901, she has daughter Kate.
The children's names are Tassel on the image.......
1891 England Census
about Helen Tassel Name: Helen Tassel
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Housekeeper
Gender: Female
Where born: Sutton Valence, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Nutfield
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter and St Paul
Town: Nutfield
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image
Registration District: Reigate
Sub-registration District: Horley
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 581
Folio: 28
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Shoebridge 43
William Shoebridge 18
Frederick Shoebridge 16
Edna Shoebridge 14
Ernest Shoebridge 8
Florence Shoebridge 8
Ethel Shoebridge 3
Helen Tassel 37 ...(Widow) Housekeeper
Florence Shoebridge 9 ...Tassel
Mable Shoebridge 1 ...Tassel
Grace Shoebridge 1/12...Tassel
John Bashford 17 (Boarder)
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12 Oct 2013 10:17 |
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1891 census
Person: SASSEL, Florence Address: Whitehouse, Marsh Road, Nutfield
SHOEBRIDGE, Charles Head Widower M 43 1848 Farm Labourer
Smarden, Kent VIEW
SHOEBRIDGE, William Son Single M 18 1873 Farm Labourer Milkman
Smarden, Kent VIEW
SHOEBRIDGE, Frederick Son Single M 16 1875 Farm Labourer
Smarden, Kent VIEW
SHOEBRIDGE, Edna Daughter Single F 14 1877
Smarden, Kent VIEW
SHOEBRIDGE, Ernest Son M 8 1883 Scholar
Smarden, Kent VIEW
SHOEBRIDGE, Florence Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar
Smarden, Kent VIEW
SHOEBRIDGE, Ethel Daughter F 3 1888
Nutfield, Surrey VIEW
SASSEL, Helen Housekeeper Widow F 37 1854 House Keeper
Sutton Valence, Kent VIEW
SASSEL, Florence Daughter F 9 1882 Scholar
Headcorn, Kent VIEW
SASSEL, Mable Daughter F 1 1890
Nutfield, Surrey VIEW
SASSEL, Grace Daughter F 0 (1M) 1891
Nutfield, Surrey VIEW
BASHFORD, John Boarder Single M 17 1874 Groom Domestic Servant
Nutfield, Surrey VIEW
As Helen was already described as a widow in 1891.............who fathered Kate?
I guess no-one will ever know
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12 Oct 2013 10:23 |
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No wonder I couldn't find a marriage!
1861 census
Person: TASSELL, Ellen Address: Jung Cottage, P H Green, Headcorn
TASSELL, Will Head Of Family Married M 47 1814 Agricultural Labourer
Headcorn VIEW
TASSELL, Mercy Wife Married F 36 1825
Sutton Valence VIEW
TASSELL, Sarah Daughter Unmarried F 31 1830
Headcorn VIEW
TASSELL, George Son Unmarried M 13 1848
Headcorn VIEW
TASSELL, Ellen Daughter Unmarried F 7 1854 Scholar
Sutton Valence VIEW
TASSELL, Thomas Son Unmarried M 5 1856
Headcorn VIEW
TASSELL, Fanny Daughter Unmarried F 3 1858
Headcorn VIEW
TASSELL, Soney Daughter Unmarried F 0 (4M) 1861
Headcorn VI
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12 Oct 2013 10:28 |
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1871 census
Person: TASSELL, Fanny Address: Tong, Headcorn
TASSELL, William Head M 60 1811 Kent VIEW
TASSELL, Mercy Wife F 41 1830 Kent VIEW
TASSELL, William Son M 25 1846 Kent VIEW
TASSELL, Thomas Son M 15 1856 Kent VIEW
TASSELL, Fanny Daughter F 12 1859 Kent VIEW
TASSELL, Amy Daughter F 10 1861 Kent VIEW
TASSELL, Joseph Son M 8 1863 Kent VIEW
TASSELL, Mary Daughter F 6 1865 Kent
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12 Oct 2013 10:31 |
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I'm wondering if this is Helen in 1881......
1881 England Census
about Helen Price Name: Helen Price
[Helen Baker]
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Mother: Sarah Baker
Gender: Female
Where born: Scotton Valna
(Sutton Valence Kent)
Civil Parish: St George Hanover Square Belgravia
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: Block No 1 2 Ebury Buildings
Marital Status: Married
Education:
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Laundress
Registration District: St George Hanover Square
Sub-registration District: Belgrave
ED, institution, or vessel: 53
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 109
Folio: 88
Page Number: 1
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Baker 61 (Widow)
Helen Price 29 (Married)
Emma Baker 19
Thomas Price 5 months (Grandson) Pimilco Middlesex
EDIT!!!
Going back to this census.........i have found further info regarding this Helen.
This appears to be her with her husband and the son Thomas.........
1891 England Census
about Helen Price Name: Helen Price
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James Price
Gender: Female
Where born: Sutton, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Broadwater
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Worthing
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image
Registration District: East Preston
Sub-registration District: Worthing
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 836
Folio: 51
Page Number: 44
Household Members: Name Age
James Price 34 (Grocer and Oilman)
Helen Price 36
Thomas Price 10 >>>>Pimlico London
Ellen Price 8
James Price 5
John Price 4
Mariam Price 2
1901 England Census
about Ellen Price Name: Ellen Price
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James Price
Gender: Female
Where born: Sutton Valence, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St George Camberwell
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View Image
Registration District: Camberwell
Sub-registration District: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 209
Piece: 519
Folio: 22
Page Number: 31
Household Members: Name Age
James Price 45 (Oilman Manager)
Ellen Price 48
Thomas Price 20 ....Pimlico London
Ellen Price 18
James Price 15
John Price 14
Hiram Price 12
Samuel Price 10
William Price 7
Household transcription
1911 census
Person: PRICE, Helen
Address: 149 Flaxman Road Camberwell S E
PRICE, James Head Married M 55 1856 Grocer And Oilman Oxfordshire Oxford VIEW
PRICE, Helen Wife Married32 years F 59 1852 Assisting In The Business Kent Maidstone VIEW
PRICE, John Son Single M 24 1887 Stores Clerk Sussex Worthing VIEW
PRICE, Samuel Son Single M 20 1891 Oilmans Assistant Sussex Worthing VIEW
PRICE, Henry Son Single M 16 1895 Wine Merchants Clerk Sussex Worthing VIEW
ROBERTS, William Son In Law Married M 29 1882 Motor Works Clerk Lancashire Liverpool VIEW
ROBERTS, Miriam Daughter Married3 years F 22 1889 Dressmaker Sussex Worthing VIEW
ROBERTS, James Grandson M 2 1909 VIEW
ROBERTS, Thomas Grandson M 0 (9 MONTHS) 1911 VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 2071
Reference: RG14PN2071 RG78PN72 RD25 SD4 ED22 SN229
Registration District: Lambeth
Sub District: Brixton
Enumeration District: 22
Parish: Lambeth
Address: 149 Flaxman Road Camberwell S E
County: London
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12 Oct 2013 10:40 |
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Helen BAKER in 1861
1861 census
Person: BAKER, Ellen Address: Upper Street, Sutton Valence
BAKER, John Head Of Family Married M 41 1820 Fishmonger
Headcorn, Kent VIEW
BAKER, Sarah Wife Married F 41 1820
Staplegate, Kent VIEW
BAKER, Ann Daughter F 15 1846
Sutton Valence, Kent VIEW
BAKER, Elizabeth Daughter F 12 1849 Scholar
Sutton Valence, Kent VIEW
BAKER, Ellen Daughter F 9 1852 Scholar
Sutton Valence, Kent VIEW
BAKER, Susanna Daughter F 5 1856 Scholar
Sutton Valence, Kent VIEW
BAKER, William Edward Son M 2 1859
Sutton
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12 Oct 2013 10:48 |
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..1871 England Census
about Sarah Baker Name: Sarah Baker
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Staplehurst, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Sutton Valence
Ecclesiastical parish: Rochester
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration District: Hollingbourn
Sub-registration District: Headcorn
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household Schedule Number: 84
Piece: 948
Folio: 12
Page Number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Baker 50
Ann Baker 26
Susannah Baker 15
Emma Baker 8
(No sign of Helen on the 1871)
1861 England Census
about Susanna Baker Name: Susanna Baker
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John Baker
Mother's Name: Sarah Baker
Gender: Female
Where born: Sutton Valence, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Sutton Valence
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Registration District: Hollinbourn
Sub-registration District: Headcorn
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 28
Piece: 506
Folio: 6
Page Number: 6
Household Members: Name Age
John Baker 41
Sarah Baker 41
Ann Baker 15
Elizabeth Baker 12
Ellen Baker 9 >>>>>Could this be Helen????
Susanna Baker 5
William Edward Baker 2
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12 Oct 2013 10:50 |
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..1871 England Census
about Ellen Baker Name: Ellen Baker
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Sutton Valence, Kent, England
Civil Parish: Horley
Ecclesiastical parish: Winchester
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration District: Reigate
Sub-registration District: Horley
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household Schedule Number: 108
Piece: 834
Folio: 101
Page Number: 21
Household Members: Name Age
John Scott 37
Anne Eliza Scott 32
Anne Gedder Scott 11
William E Scott 8
Laurie Scott 7
Gedder R Scott 57
Juliana Allen 29
Ellen Baker 22 ....Cook/Domestic
Charlotte Chandler 25
Elizth Pickard 16
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12 Oct 2013 11:31 |
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A double wedding for Ethel and Florence...
Marriages Mar 1910 (>99%)
LONG George Frederick Reigate 2a 323
Stubberfield William Reigate 2a 323
TASSEL Ethel Fanny Reigate 2a 323
TASSEL Florence Anie Reigate 2a 323
Household transcription
1911 census
Person: STUBBERFIELD, Ehtel
Address: 27 Park Road Caterham
STUBBERFIELD, William Head Married M 26 1885 Fraction Engine Driver Wartling Sussex VIEW
STUBBERFIELD, Ehtel Wife Married1 years F 23 1888 Nutfield Surrey VIEW
STUBBERFIELD, Grace Daughter Single F 1 1910 Caterham Surrey VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 3247
Reference: RG14PN3247 RG78PN123 RD38 SD1 ED4 SN229
Registration District: Godstone
Sub District: Godstone
Enumeration District: 4
Parish: Caterham
Address: 27 Park Road Caterham
County: Surrey
Children born after 1911....
Births Dec 1913 (>99%)
Stubberfield Ethel M Tassell Godstone 2a 402
Births Jun 1916 (>99%)
Stubberfield Frederick R J Tassell Godstone 2a 407
Births Jun 1918 (>99%)
STUBBERFIELD Ronald Tassell Godstone 2a 362
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12 Oct 2013 11:48 |
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I have been struggling to find married Florence in the 1911 census....then i spotted that she appears as Mrs Long.
Household transcription
1911 census
Person: LONG
Address: Meadowcroft Nutfield Surrey
TASSELL, Helen Head Widow F 57 1854 School Caretaker Sutton Valence Trent VIEW
TASSELL, Grace Daughter Single F 20 1891 Lustefier Ashton Iron Type Works Nutfield VIEW
TASSELL, Kate Daughter Single F 18 1893 Tustifier Sandstonemonstype Works Nutfield VIEW
LONG Daughter Married1 years F 29 1882 Headcorn VIEW
LONG, Jack Grandson M 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 Nutfield VIEW
SHOEBRIDGE, Charles Lodger Widower M 64 1847 Farm Labourer Smarden VIEW
SHOEBRIDGE, Edith Granddaughter F 11 1900 School Girl Croydon VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 3241
Reference: RG14PN3241 RG78PN122 RD37 SD3 ED11 SN95
Registration District: Reigate
Sub District: Horley
Enumeration District: 11
Parish: Nutfield
Address: Meadowcroft Nutfield Surrey
County: Surrey
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12 Oct 2013 12:05 |
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..Surrey, England, Baptisms, 1813-1912
about Grace Gertrude Stubberfield Name: Grace Gertrude Stubberfield
Baptism Date: 15 May 1910
Archive Provided Parish: Caterham, St Mary
Parish as it Appears: Caterham
Father: William Stubberfield (Engine Driver)
Mother: Ethel Stubberfield
Abode: 105 Park Road, Caterham
Reference Number: 6087/1/9
Surrey, England, Marriages, 1754-1937
about Grace Gertrude Stubberfield (Spinster) 84 Bridge Road, Chertsey
Age: 20
Birth Year: abt 1910
Marriage Date: 20 Dec 1930
Archive Provided Parish: Caterham, St Mary
Parish as it Appears: Caterham
Spouse: Edgar William Passingham (Bachelor) Upholsterer) 27 Park Road, Caterham.
Spouse Age: 26
Father: William Gideon Stubberfield (Engine Driver)
Spouse Father: Percy Lyon Passingham (Furniture Salesman)
Witnesses: George Chapman Reed and Mary Ethel Stubberfield
Reference Number: 6087/1/21
England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
about Grace Gertrude Passingham Name: Grace Gertrude Passingham
Birth Date: 9 Feb 1910
Date of Registration: Jun 1987
Age at Death: 77
Registration District: Portsmouth
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 20
Page: 920
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