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Unknown

Unknown Report 6 Oct 2013 19:20

HII AM TRYING TO FIND OUT IF THERE IS ANY LIVING RELATIVES ON MY NANA'S
SIDE MY NANA NOW HAS DEMENTIA WE ARE TRYING TO FIND OUT WERE HER
FATHER IS BURIED ETC I WILL PUT ALL INFO I HAVE BELOW
MY NANA'S NAME IS ELIZABETH DEERY BORN CLYDEBANK / GOVAN AREAS
HER MOTHER WAS MARY FLORENCE BISLEY
BORN ON 18TH DECEMBER 1904 AT 6 BLACKBURN STREET GOVAN MARY'S MOTHER
WAS LIZZIE JANE BISLEY MAIDEN NAME CRAIG AND MARY'S FATHER WAS THOMAS
BISLEY ,THOMAS BISLEY WORKED AS AN IRON DRILLER THOMAS BISLEY AND LIZZIE
JANE BISLEY GOT MARRIED ON 17TH JUNE 1904 AT DISTRICT OF PLANTATION
MY NANA ELIZABETH DEERY FATHER WAS FRANCIS JOSEPH DEERY ,BORN ON 2ND
JANUARY 1902 AT 111 GLASGOW ROAD CLYDEBANK JOSEPH FRANCIS DEERY
MOTHER WAS CATHERINE DEERY MAIDEN NAME MULHOLLAND AND FRANCIS
JOSEPH DEERY FATHER WAS JOHN DEERY WORKED AS A MACHINIST ALSO SHIP
RIGGERJOHN DEERY AND CATHERINE DEERY WERE MARRIED ON 16TH JULY 1893
AT LETTERKENNY DONEGAL IRELAND
FRANCIS JOSEPH DEERY AND MARY FLORENCE BISLEY GOT MARRIED ON 27TH
OCTOBER 1934 AT ST MARGARET'S CHURCH AT THAT TIME FRANCIS WAS 32 AND
MARY WAS 29 FRANCIS WAS A PLUMBERS LABOURER AND MARY WAS DOMESTIC
SERVANT (SPINSTER) RESIDENCE AT THAT TIME WAS FRANCIS 16 EAST BARNS
STREET CLYDEBANK AND MARY RESIDENCE WAS 167 FOTHERINGAY ROAD
GLASGOW
THE OTHER INFORMATION I HAVE WAS MY NANA'S UNCLE BROUGHT HER UP WHOM
WAS CANON HUGH DEERY AND HE DIED ON 25TH MAY 1988 AS FAR AS I AM AWARE
CANON HUGH DEERY NEPHEW BECAME A PRIEST A SHORT TIME AFTER 1988 HIS
NAME WAS JIM DEERY AS FAR AS I A AWARE HE COULD STILL BE ALIVE WOULD BE
GREAT TO FIND OUT AS HE WOULD BE MY NANAS COUSIN %3A-D
THIS IS THE OTHER INFORMATION I HAVE
hi I have been looking at the thread as trying to trace family from my nana's side my nana is
Elizabeth deery her mother was called Mary Florence Deery maiden name (BISLEY)date of
death 13/june/1953 address 18 Drive Road Govan
my nana's father was
Francis Deery date of death 28/aug/1963 address 32 Garmouth Street Govan
also lead to believe my nana's uncle was hugh derry and he was a priest she also mentions
an uncle jim Patrick frank and auntie Catherine my nana is now 75 but has Alzheimer's and I
am trying to find out as much information as possible does any of this tie up with you? thanks
Nicola (Elizabeth Derry's granddaughter)
would love to here from you soon :)
HOPE SOMEONE CAN HELP THANKS AND IF YOU THINK YOU COULD BE RELATED CONTACT ME PLEASE THANKS :-D

FAIRTHORN

FAIRTHORN Report 6 Oct 2013 19:37

http://staugustinescoatbridge.com/2012/01/30/hugh-deery/

Their grief would be in part alleviated by the ordination to the priesthood of his nephew Jim a bare few weeks after Hugh’s death. Hugh will appreciate the continuity in Church and Family.

Could Jim be under another surname ie Hugh's sister son ???


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patchem

patchem Report 6 Oct 2013 19:40

Did Elizabeth have any brothers or sisters that you are aware of, and did she talk of her parents?

Scottish records are pay-per-view, not subscription, so more difficult and costly for helpers to look for.

Have you looked to see if any of her relatives are in trees on here?

Unknown

Unknown Report 6 Oct 2013 19:57

yeah she had a sister whom died as a baby think around 2 years old yeah she spoke of her parents as far as i am aware her mum passed away when my nana was 14 and her father passed away 10 years later but were not sure why her uncle brought her up since 14 as she always sais you would have loved my mum and dad they were lovely people never argued etc lol x

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 6 Oct 2013 22:59

The nearest cemetery to Drive Road, Govan is Craigton Cemetery. If you contact Bereavement Services, Glasgow city Council giving the names and dates of death for your Nana's parents they will be able to tell you if they are buried in Craigton Cemetery. Cardonald Cemetery is another possibility. As current bereavements are the Council's priority it can take a few weeks to get a reply.

Unknown

Unknown Report 6 Oct 2013 23:21

thanks yeah my dad is in the process of getting searches done some have been done some are in process awaiting on results just seeing if i can get anything on here that might help also thanks for your reply :-)

Penny

Penny Report 7 Oct 2013 08:54

Have you bought any credit for ''Scotlands people'' its pay per view- you could spend some time poking about and see if you can see anything

Unknown

Unknown Report 7 Oct 2013 14:10

i have 50 credits on this at the moment is it on this i can do the scotland people search ? sorry i am new to this x :-)

jax

jax Report 7 Oct 2013 14:31

Genes do not hold any Scottish records apart from census's 1841-1901

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 8 Oct 2013 16:03

1901

Name: John Deery
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Catherine Deery
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration number: 501
Registration District: Old Kilpatrick
Civil Parish: Old Kilpatrick
Town: Clydebank
County: Dumbartonshire
Address: 111 Glasgow Road Lindsays Land
Occupation: Boring M/c M Marine Engine Shop
ED: 19
Household Schedule Number: 186
Line: 20
Roll: CSSCT1901_173
Household Members:
Name Age
John Deery 33
Catherine Deery 31, b. Irelan
Mary Deery 6 b. Clydebank
Kathleen Deery 4, b. Clydebank
John Deery 2, b. Clydebank
Michael Cannon 25 Boarder, b. Ireland
Patrick Connoly 30 Boarder, b. Ireland

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 8 Oct 2013 16:22

Just to get you started.

1911 Census for George Street Partick (From Scotlandspeople website)


Eliza Bisley, wife, aged 30 years. Married 6 years, 5 children born, 3 living 2 had died.

Mary Bisley, Daughter aged 6 born Glasgow

Sarah Bilsey, daughter, aged 4 born Glasgow

Thomas Bilsey, Son, Aged 3 born Glasgow

There is also a Boarder named John but I can't make out his surname. He was a Shop's Carpenter Apprentice aged 18 years + born Glasgow.


Unluckily father Thomas os on the previous page so I can't see him without using another 5 credits.


One of the children who died before 1911?

1910 BISLEY ELIZA JANE F 0 PARTICK GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 646/03 0460

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 8 Oct 2013 16:29

1901

Name: Eliza J Craig
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's Name: Robert Craig
Mother's Name: Mary Craig
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Registration number: 646A/2
Registration District: Plantation Landward
Civil Parish: Govan
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 43 Park St
Occupation: Shirt Machinist
ED: 29
Household Schedule Number: 102
Line: 20
Roll: CSSCT1901_325
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Craig 61
Mary Craig 59
James Craig 35
Martin Craig 30
Joseph Craig 21
Eliza J Craig 20
James Craig 2 Grandson, b. Ireland

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 8 Oct 2013 17:03

This looks like your Nana's Aunt's death. Perhaps the informant was one of her cousins?

1982 BISLEY SARAH MILLER Not Permissible BUCHAN F 76 OLD KILPATRICK /WEST DUNBARTONSHIRE 506/00 0461

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 8 Oct 2013 17:28

1911 for 546 Cyrprus Place, Yoker

DEERY ANNIE M F 7 b. Clydebank,

DEERY CATHERINE F 14 b. Clydebank, Needle Packer. Sewing Machine Factory

DEERY CATHERINE F 36 b. Ireland, Donegal

DEERY FRANCIS M 9 b. Clydebank,

DEERY JAMES H M 2 b. Ireland, Tyrone

DEERY JOHN M 39 b. Ireland, Donegal, Insurance Agent United National


DEERY JOHN M 12 b. Clydebank,

DEERY MARY F 16 b. Clydebank, Transfering Dept. Sewing Machine Factory

DEERY PATRICK C M 4 b. Ireland, Donegal



Married 17 years, 8 children born, 7 living

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 8 Oct 2013 17:35

In 1911 Hugh Deery, age 27 single, Railway Surfaceman born Ireland is lodging at Sutherland Arms Cottage, Bowling with the Lafferty family

1911 DEERY HUGH M 27 OLD OR WEST KILPATRICK /DUNBARTON 501/00 002/00 001

Unknown

Unknown Report 8 Oct 2013 22:46

thankyou so much for your reply i really appreciate it how did you find that i am new to this i have 50 credits but not sure how i use them if you could help it tell me how you found that i would be obliged and how i use the credits thankyou so so much :-D

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 9 Oct 2013 14:04

I found the above on the Scotlandspeople website. That's the best place to find twentieth century Scottish records. It is a pay to view site.

If you still stay in the Clydebank area, your best (and cheapest) way to research your family is to use either the Scotlandspeople Centre in Edinburgh (£15 to research for 1 day) or the family history section in The Mitchell Library in Glasgow. Not sure how much the Mitchell charge for a day. You can view more recent records in person at either of these places and make notes from the original entries. The Mitchell also holds cemetery records for most Glasgow cemeteries which are searchable if you have death dates. Off hand I can't remember the most recent date for Craigton Cemetery but they do have records for it. The Mitchell have the Glasgow Poor Relief records (indexed) and these can be very helpful for Irish ancestry as they often give details of where in Ireland our ancestors came from.



I think this might be the birth registration of Patrick born in Donegal

Name: Patrick Deery
Event Type: Birth
Event Date: Apr - Jun 1907
Event Place: Inishowen, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year: Apr - Jun 1907
Registration District: Inishowen
Age:
Birth Year (Estimated):
Mother's Maiden Name:
Volume Number: 2
Page Number: 125
GS Film number: 101071
Digital Folder Number: 004194690
Image Number: 00418

That certificate may give you an address which you can look up on the 1911 Irish census which is available free here

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/


And maybe James's birth?

Name: James Henry Deery
Event Type: Birth
Event Date: Apr - Jun 1908
Event Place: Strabane, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year: Apr - Jun 1908
Registration District: Strabane
Age:
Birth Year (Estimated):
Mother's Maiden Name:
Volume Number: 2
Page Number: 313
GS Film number: 101072
Digital Folder Number: 004194691
Image Number: 00100



(From Ancestry but also available on the free to use Familysearch.org)

Name: Catherine Mulholland
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1893
Registration District: Letterkenny
Volume: 2
Page Number: 110
FHL Film Number: 101257

Records on Page:
Name
Peter Devine
Catherine Mulholland <<<<<
Sarah Collins
John Deerey <<<<<<


That marriage certificate will give you the names of the father's of the bride and groom.

If you look on Scotlandspeople for the death registrations for John and Catherine it will give you the names of their fathers and mothers with the mothers maiden surnames if the informant knew the details.



rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 9 Oct 2013 14:21

If you look in your "inbox" I have tried to send you the Scotlandspeople images. I hope they open for you.

Unknown

Unknown Report 14 Feb 2014 20:24

Nicola:

Please contact me through this service regarding info about your Nana.

Dominick Cullen

jax

jax Report 14 Feb 2014 20:28

Welcome to the boards Dominick

Click on Nicolas name and send her a private message, just incase she is not looking for any more replies now