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Looking for family of Herbert kelly of Brighton

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denise1971

denise1971 Report 5 Aug 2013 23:46

I am searching for any information on the family of the late Herbert J Kelly (possibly middle name is john), who may have been born in Brighton ? or possibly London areas although I,m not certain. I think he was an only child - his parents ran an Hotel in Brighton around 1936, He had Gold teeth so I think this will jog someones memory a little.....I believe he was Head Waiter in a London Hotel in his twenties/thirties ?? Met and married a lady about 1936 and settled in Worthing/Brighton. If you have any information please contact me thanks

patchem

patchem Report 5 Aug 2013 23:52

Welcome to the boards, Denise.

Do you believe that this is the marriage?
Marriages Mar 1936
Hanson Janet Kelly Brighton 2b 426
Kelly Herbert J Hanson Brighton 2b 426

If so, the marriage certificate could be useful for more information.

Unfortunately it is highly unlikely that anyone who has knowledge of him, including his gold teeth, will be reading these messages.

This is a guess:
Herbert John Kelly
Birth Date: 26 Jan 1910
Date of Registration: Mar 1977
Age at Death: 67
Registration District: Eastbourne
Inferred County: East Sussex
Volume: 18
Page: 0781

denise1971

denise1971 Report 6 Aug 2013 00:58

Hi, Yes Janet Hanson is the correct lady that married Herbert in March 1936, the age of death I had no idea of, so thank you that is a great help. The year 1977 is this when he passed away ?
Also if its not much trouble could you tell me how can i find out if he remarried after his divorce from Janet and did he have any more children > ?

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 6 Aug 2013 01:12

Look on FreeBMD:

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

This is in the correct area.

Marriages Jun 1956
CARTER Molly KELLY Hove 5h 540
KELLY Herbert J CARTER Hove 5h 640

Rose

jax

jax Report 6 Aug 2013 01:19

This could be his 2nd wifes death


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
about Molly Kelly
Name:
Molly Kelly
Birth Date:
23 Jan 1913
Date of Registration:
Mar 1982
Age at Death:
69
Registration District:
Eastbourne
Inferred County:
East Sussex
Volume:
18
Page:
0727

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 6 Aug 2013 01:26

Was he Irish?

1911 census

Residents of a house 32 in Kirkistown (Ardkeen, Down)
Show all information
Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion
Kelly David 37 Male Head of Family Presbyterian
Kelly Sarah Elizabeth 30 Female Wife Presbyterian
Kelly Eleanor Mary 8 Female Daughter Presbyterian
Kelly Robert James 7 Male Son Presbyterian
Kelly Jeanie Elizabeth 6 Female Daughter Presbyterian
Kelly Herbert John 1 Male Son Presbyterian

Rose

denise1971

denise1971 Report 6 Aug 2013 01:29

Any idea if there was any children born in the marriage to Molly Carter ?

denise1971

denise1971 Report 6 Aug 2013 01:34

Irish ? I don't know if he was irish, but I think he was an only child. His parents had an hotel in brighton about 1936.

I have no idea what Herberts parents where called either

jax

jax Report 6 Aug 2013 01:39

If she was born 1913 she would have been 43 when they married...carter may have been a previous married name

denise1971

denise1971 Report 6 Aug 2013 01:46

I would love to find his family or a photograph of Herbert and as much information as possible....... for his 2 daughters that he lost touch with when they were only very young (Patricia born 1936 and Sheila born 1937) .....these are the children that were from his marriage to Janet.

jax

jax Report 6 Aug 2013 01:50

A marriage cert would give his age and fathers name and if that is them a death cert poss Molly's maybe registered by a relative

denise1971

denise1971 Report 6 Aug 2013 02:35

I will always wonder if he had any other children after he was divorced from Janet after approximately 1941 ? onwards -
Maybe his new family never ever knew about Sheila and Patricia - which is such a shame, and Sheila and Patricia don't have a lot of information to go on either.
It would be nice to have known about any other siblings or someone who knew them to have some more information for us.
As we dont know Herberts parents names it makes it even harder

denise1971

denise1971 Report 6 Aug 2013 02:35

I will always wonder if he had any other children after he was divorced from Janet after approximately 1941 ? onwards -
Maybe his new family never ever knew about Sheila and Patricia - which is such a shame, and Sheila and Patricia don't have a lot of information to go on either.
It would be nice to have known about any other siblings or someone who knew them to have some more information for us.
As we dont know Herberts parents names it makes it even harder

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 6 Aug 2013 02:36

Births Mar 1913
Strudwick Molly Amoy Horsham 2b 519

Marriages Jun 1931
Murdoch George A Strudwick Steyning 2b 738
Strudwick Molly Murdoch Steyning 2b 738

Marriages Dec 1939
Carter Albert E C Murdoch Hove 2b 1189
Carter Albert E C Strudwick Hove 2b 1189
Murdoch Molly Carter Hove 2b 1189
Strudwick Molly Carter Hove 2b 1189

Rose

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 6 Aug 2013 02:39

She had children from her first marriage but not seeing any from the others.

Rose

denise1971

denise1971 Report 6 Aug 2013 02:52

If Herbert was born in Brighton is there a census to show his parents names or address ?

denise1971

denise1971 Report 6 Aug 2013 02:56

Rose - who had children from there first marriage ? Janet or Molly
Was Janet married before she married Herbert ?
And what about Molly had she been married before ?

jax

jax Report 6 Aug 2013 02:59

There are no Herbert J Kelly's born to match that birth in England or Wales

So he was likely to be born elsewhere...poss Ireland??

Rose gave the marriages for Molly

jax

jax Report 6 Aug 2013 03:08

This was one of her children who sadly died

Deaths Mar 1933 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Murdoch Constance 0 Steyning 2b 578


The other one was called Lawrence but not seeing anything for him after his birth

denise1971

denise1971 Report 6 Aug 2013 03:33

Was Molly Carter (nee Strudwick) definately the lady who married the same Herbert John Kelly as Janet Hanson ?
And any idea if Janet had any other children before or after she had Patricia and Sheila, or was there any other marriages for Janet ?
Janet died in Hartlepool I know that.