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GWEN HARRIS,HIRWAUN

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valerie

valerie Report 3 Apr 2013 22:26

GWEN (MRS ) HARRIS (SADLY DECEASED)WAS MY GRANDMOTHERS SISTER,HER NAME WAS CHARLOTTE SMITH( BORN 1900 APPROX ) ),MARRIED TO JOHN WILLIAMS,2 BOYS EDWARD ( MY DAD ) & AUSTIN.SHE DIED 1925/6.IM NOW RESEARCHING AND WOULD BE GLAD TO KNOW HER MOTHERS MAIDEN NAME AND ANY OTHER FAMILY INFO. GWEN LIVED IN HIRWAUN ALL HER LIFE I BELIEVE.HERES HOPING !!!!!!!!

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 3 Apr 2013 23:05

Just to clarify...
Who died 1925 / 6... Charlotte or Gwen?
Who did Gwen marry and when?

Was Gwen her full name?

Gwyn

patchem

patchem Report 3 Apr 2013 23:10

Welcome to the boards, Valerie.

Is this your grandmother's marriage?
Marriages Sep 1922
SMITH Charlotte Williams Merthyr T. 11a 1671
WILLIAMS John C Smith Merthyr T. 11a 1671

and Austin's birth?
Births Sep 1925
Williams Austin Smith Merthyr T.

Added:
As you have a Smith/Williams marriage, you need the marriage certificate. Have you got it?

Death?
Deaths Mar 1926
Williams Charlotte 30 Merthyr T. 11a 843

??
Births Dec 1895
Smith Charlotte Merthyr T. 11a 686

patchem

patchem Report 3 Apr 2013 23:25

Is this Gwen's marriage?
Marriages Jun 1911
GRIFFITHS Elizabeth M Merthyr T. 11a 1396
xxxHarris David Merthyr T. 11a 1396
xxxSmith Gwen Merthyr T. 11a 1396
Thomas Thomas J Merthyr T. 11a 1396

If Gwen is your grandmother's sister, they will both have the same mother, and so the same mother's maiden name?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Apr 2013 23:52

Were these women actually FULL sisters?

If they were, Gwen's mother's name will have been the same as Charlotte's.
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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Apr 2013 23:59

1901 census


Person: SMITH, Charlotte Address: By Mount Pleasant Inn, Rhigos

SMITH, Edr Head Married M 40 1861 Coal Miner
Monmouthshire VIEW
SMITH, Eliza Wife F 40 1861
Mountash, Glamorganshire VIEW
SMITH, Thos Son M 14 1887
Hirwain, Glamorganshire VIEW
SMITH, James Son M 9 1892
Hirwain, Glamorganshire VIEW
SMITH, Charlotte Daughter F 5 1896
Hirwain, Glamorganshire VIEW
SMITH, Edr John Son M 3 1898
Hirwain, Glamorganshire VIEW
SMITH, Maggie Alice Daughter F 1 1900
Hirwain, Glamorganshire VIEW

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 Apr 2013 00:02

1891 census

Person: SMITH, Thomas Address: Brecon Road, Rhigos

SMITH, Edward Head Married M 27 1864 Coal Miner
Blaenavon, Monmouthshire VIEW
SMITH, Liza Wife Married F 30 1861
Hirwain, Glamorganshire VIEW
SMITH, Mary Jane Daughter Single F 9 1882
Hirwain, Glamorganshire VIEW
SMITH, Gwen Daughter Single F 5 1886
Hirwain, Glamorganshire VIEW
SMITH, Thomas Son Single M 3 1888
Hirwain, Glamorganshire

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 Apr 2013 00:03

Both census records found on FMP, and based on patchem's BMD info

I'll let YOU have the pleasure of finding the marriage of the parents......and, thus, the answer to your question.

valerie

valerie Report 5 Apr 2013 00:05

Well folks I am overwhelmed !!! I am also VERY new to GR.It will take me a while to digest all your replys but I will clarify the info I have. My grandmother was Charlotte Smith born 1896 (birthplace unknown) she married John Charles Williams in 1922 jul/aug/sept merthyr,glam vol no 11A vol page 1671.They had 2 sons Edward (my father) born 1-12-1922,and Austin born 1925/6.My father was born in Gamlyn Terrace,Penywaun,near Hirwaun.Charlotte died 1926 after Austin was born (cause unknown but suspect chilbirth) and John Charles died approx 1935.Charlottes sister was Gwen Harris( nee Smith) and lived in Tower Road,Hirwaun since at least 1940t till she died.I have only downloaded the basic marriage info so far .I thankyou all once again,I certainly have lots and lots to learn.I hope this will lead to finding as yet unknown relatives too.