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Unknown Report 1 Mar 2013 16:02

I am J.T.Elliotts granddaughter I have been searching for any information I can get on him or his family. He was born in 1896 in Wales but do not know the town or anything. He possibly had a sister named Enid born 1904. He was sent to canada in 1911 on board the ship Corinthian as a part of the Barnardo Children. I have his marriage certificate to my grandmother and parents are listed as unknown. Any help would be greatful Ive hit a wall. Ive searched the census but without any other info he could be one of many because John Thomas is a common name. Any hints or any living relatives???? I would be so thankful.
Debbie :-)

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 1 Mar 2013 16:20

You could try asking for his file from Barnardos .They have kept records for their children so that would be the place to start

http://www.barnardos.org.uk/what_we_do/who_we_are/history/family_history_service/family_history_service_trace_your_family_history.htm

Unknown

Unknown Report 1 Mar 2013 17:48

Thanks I will try that!!!!

Ru

Ru Report 1 Mar 2013 17:57

Unknown,

This may help:
Organizations Who Will Help Search (Canada | Britain | Australia)
Canada

As of January 1, 2002, all requests for assistance in tracing a home child should be sent to:

The British Isles Family History Society of Greater Ottawa
c/o John Sayers
2157 Fillmore Cres
Gloucester, Ottawa, ON, K1J 6A1
email: sayersji@sympatico

Home Children Canada
107 Erindale Ave.
Renfrew, ON
Canada K7V 4G3
Phone: 613-432-2486
Website: http://www3.telus.net/Home_Children_Canada/

Mr. Lorente started his work in this area by tracing his father, who was brought to Canada by one of the Catholic Church organizations. He has collected a great deal of information and has a database containing the names of immigrants he comes across in his work. (Requests for assistance should be directed to the British Isles Family History Society above.)

Home Children: Builders of Canada
PO Box 3128
Richmond, Quebec J0B 2H0
Phone: 819-826-3478
Email: [email protected]

Sarge & Pauline Bampton have been doing work in the area of Sherbrooke and Knowlton Quebec.

Douglas Fry
503 King George Street
Brantford, ON N3T 5L8
Email: [email protected]

Mr Douglas Fry has copies of Fegan's booklets dated 1885-­1932, records of 3,600 Fegan boys emigrated to to Canada and a list of 4500 Roman Catholic boys sent to Canada from South London.
Great Britain

The following organizations in England specialize in tracing. This information was provided by Barnardo Homes and other sources.

Salvation Army
The Director, Family Tracing Services
101 Newington Causeway
London, SE1 6BN
England
Phone: 020 7367 4747
Email: at present only by mail
Website: http://www.salvationarmy.org.uk/familytracing

If you google Barnardo's Children sent to Canada you may find a link to other information on this subject.

Hope this helps.

Sappho.

Ru

Ru Report 1 Mar 2013 18:01

There is an article on Annie Macpherson:

Quote:
""Miss Macpherson brought children to Canada from her own home in London but she also had arrangments with Barnardo, Quarrier, Smyly, and many other organizations to accompany and place their children as well. Some of the children came from workhouses.""

Go on line and have a look. It may help direct you to a site. I think you will find heaps of information to direct you to sites covering the immigrant passenger ships and their destinations to all over Canada.

Good luck again.

Sappho

Kay????

Kay???? Report 1 Mar 2013 18:42


Enid Violet Elliott.1904.

John Thomas should both be on the 1911.

John Thomas Elliott left London England 23/9/1911 and arrived in Quebec 6/10/1911 under the Barnardo scheme.

Ru

Ru Report 1 Mar 2013 22:37

Oh well done Kay so here's the starter to the research in Canada.

Barnardo's staff are very helpful so keep fingers crossed on this one.

If you google Barnardo's Quebec Canada there is some information on the old home they would have gone to and you may find a link. I cannot find a current Barnardo's as we have here in New Zealand, but you may get lucky. They keep good records.

Some interesting reading under Barnardo's Quebec, Canada when you google.

Sappho

patchem

patchem Report 1 Mar 2013 23:26

No John Thomas 1896
1911 Wales Census
Enid V Elliott Age in 1911: 6 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1905
Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female
Civil parish: Barry County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales Street Address: 183 Court Road Barry Dock
Registration district: Cardiff
Registration District Number: 588
Sub-registration district: St Nicholas ED, institution, or vessel: 06
Household schedule number: 416 Piece: 32183
John T Elliott 44
Elizabeth Elliott 42 15 children born, 10 living
Thomas H Elliott 24
Eleanor C Elliott 22
Annie E Elliott 21
Ivor E Elliott 16
Dovis R Elliott 9
Linda J Elliott 8
Enid V Elliott 6
Phyllis M Elliott 3
Ing E Elliott 1
Gwendolin M Elliott 1
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 32183; Schedule Number: 416.

Kay????

Kay???? Report 2 Mar 2013 08:16

He maybe under just John Elliott.

It maybe possible to narrow a birth entry if Debbie gives his birth month,she can then hopefully apply for a BC.

UK Barnardos will hold entry and release file information on him.

Edit,==============

Enid Violet Elliott was also on the same ship.

John Thomas Elliott birth given as,,,,,,,,31/10/1896.only a John Elliott registered Oct/Dec 1896-----BC needed.

Unknown

Unknown Report 2 Mar 2013 15:06

WHAT A WONDERFUL BUNCH OF HELPFUL PEOPLE THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH

DEBBIE

patchem

patchem Report 2 Mar 2013 16:44

Is the assumption that Enid might be his sister just because they are travelling on the same ship?
The family that I found in 1911 has all children accounted for.
If John Thomas (from the ship) was only registered as John, then Enid Violet(on the ship) may be only registered as Enid?

Kay????

Kay???? Report 2 Mar 2013 19:19


The birth of John Elliott,

1896,

Elliott John,,,registered as,,,,,,,Criickhowell, (Monmouthshire.

1901 Census-----A John Elliott 1896 is showing in ,,,Llansantffrend ?Monmouthshire about 10 miles away.,,,,,aged 5,........it needs a view.

Only 1 birth for 1904,

Enid Violet Elliott ----Cardiff....


Perhaps during 1911 the family broke down?

patchem

patchem Report 2 Mar 2013 19:53

Kay,
Sorry, cannot see the one you mean, was it FMP? Ancestry has:
1901 Wales Census
John Elliott Age in 1901: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896
Relation: Son Father's Name: Geo Elliott Mother's name: Fanny Elliott
Gender: Male Where born: Mont, Llansantffraid
Civil parish: Llansanffraid Deytheur Ecclesiastical parish: Llansanffraid ym Mechan County/Island: Montgomeryshire Country: Wales
Registration district: Llanfyllin Sub-registration district: Llansantffraid
ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household schedule number: 8 Piece: 5204 Folio: 27n Page Number: 1
Geo Elliott 39
Fanny Elliott 38
William Elliott 17
Edith Elliott 12
Ida Elliott 9
Ethel Elliott 7
John Elliott 5
Florence Elliott 3
Stanley Elliott 11 Months

The 1911 family may have broken down, but would they claim 11 children living and 11 children showing in 1911 but not John?

Kay????

Kay???? Report 2 Mar 2013 20:26


There is another birth,
John Evrad Elliott,,,,March 1897 reg------Llanfyllin,

There is only the Crickhowell and the one above that fits with his birth as,,31/10 1896 ......born in Wales as put by Debbie,maybe he wasnt born there?so was nearly 15 when he landed in CA..

Debbie can apply for his details...

Unknown

Unknown Report 3 Mar 2013 03:21

You people are wonderful. Im not positive on the day or month of his birthday but i am about the year 1896. I have requested info from barnardo files I am hoping for something from there. Im not totally sure of his birthplace just he put on the marriage certificate to my grandmother that his birthplace was bagillt flintshire wales. So i dont know if he even knew where he was born. Searching through census and births there is nothing connecting. It is possible Enid Elliott was his sister they both came on the same ship with the same last name,but then again i have no proof, hopefully something will come about so i can keep going. You people are ever so helpful and i am truly grateful. :-) Debbie

Flip

Flip Report 3 Mar 2013 06:05

Have you checked the image for the Corinthian - John Thos Elliott was listed as 9 years old, which is rather a large discrepancy? Enid Elliott is also listed a 9.

AnotherCanuck

AnotherCanuck Report 3 Mar 2013 07:24

Surname: ELLIOTTGiven Name: EnidAge: 9Sex: FShip: CorinthianYear of Arrival: 1911Departure Port: LondonDeparture Date: 1911-09-23Arrival Port: QuebecArrival Date: 1911-10-06Party: Party of GirlsDestination: Peterborough, OntarioComments: Barnardo ChildrenSource: Library and Archives CanadaReference: RG 76 C1aMicrofilm: T-4782Type of Record: Passenger Lists

Surname: ELLIOTTGiven Name: John ThomasAge: 9Sex: MShip: CorinthianYear of Arrival: 1911Departure Port: LondonDeparture Date: 1911-09-23Arrival Port: QuebecArrival Date: 1911-10-06Party: Party of BoysDestination: Toronto, OntarioComments: Barnardo ChildrenSource: Library and Archives CanadaReference: RG 76 C1aMicrofilm: T-4782Type of Record: Passenger Lists.

The above are the only John & Enid Elliott found in Library & Archives Canada re Home Children (1869 to 1930)

A/Canuck

AnotherCanuck

AnotherCanuck Report 3 Mar 2013 07:25

Library and Archives Canada

www.collectionscanada.gc.ca

patchem

patchem Report 3 Mar 2013 09:53

Bagillt is near Holywell in Flintshire.
Births Mar 1902
Elliott John Thomas Holywell 11b 189

Other Elliott births in Holywell
Births Mar 1902
Elliott John Thomas Holywell 11b 189
Births Jun 1902
Elliott Joseph Eric Holywell 11b 206 (Added: Died Flintshire, with grandparents (as Eric) in 1911?)
Births Sep 1903
Elliott Harry Holywell 11b 210
Births Dec 1907
ELLIOTT Oswald Norman Holywell 11b 183 (Added: With parents in Yorkshire in 1911)
Births Mar 1910
ELLIOTT William John Holywell 11b (Added; Possibly died in Wales in 1987)

Flip

Flip Report 3 Mar 2013 10:39

Can someone check out the 1911 census on FMP - I'm getting a hit for John Thomas Elliott born *flint* living in Chipping Norton, Oxfordshire but I can't find it on Ancestry.

Household ELLIOTT, John Thomas 1902 9 M Chipping Norton Oxfordshire VIEW

It must be the one found by Patchem as according to GR he was born Flints. Bagillt