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Hi all
Just a update for you

I have sent away and got Williams death certificate he died on 18 June 1886 at 9 Vaughan Places Ruby Street, Old Kent Road, which is where the family lived when Martha was born in 1890, so it looks like William was not her father although Eliza had him down on birth certificate as Father, and that also goes for Thomas

I also told me that he was a Army Pensioner, so that is why he was on the Army records in, that maybe why I could not find him in the family home in 1881 etc

Once again thanks for all your help

Regards Marj

Oh thanks so much Detective


Regards Marj

You can ask for a photo of the war grave from

http://twgpp.org/

The sample photo of it is here
http://twgpp.org/information.php?id=3068110

twgpp ask for a donations if you want a copy *£3.50 for emailed, £5.50 for hard copies. For overseas postage outside UK please add £1.*

You can right click on the image and save to your computer, but the quality isn't as good as the version you can make a donation for.

My pleasure..............

Reggie

On Elizabeth Albina A, I have found all this info but once again many thanks for looking, I can not thank you enough


Best wishes Marj

Reggie

Will with William George Anthony Maloney

William George Anthony Maloney, yes he was William and Eliza Emily's eldest son, I do have a lot of info on him but not the Grave number etc, so thanks for that he died in Flanders France so this must by memorial for him I have copied it so maybe I can get a photo of it for my tree

Next Martha and Benjamin Harris, this ties in with other bits I have and have sent away for the marriage certif.

Next Robert William George Swain, I had the date of his birth but not death

Next Harry Lewis all I had on him was that he married Eliza Emily Moloney nee Buckhurst so many thanks on that info

Next Joseph Walter Lewis born 1896 have not found him on the 1901 census but have found this which ties in with him, Joseph Walter died in WW1 26 October 1917 Belgium and on the cwg site it gives his parents as Harry and Eliza Emily of 5 Galleywall Road Rotherhithe, but of course as the year of birth is 1896, he may not have been Eliza Emily's

Next Henrietta Harriet Swain I had no info at all on her only her birth so once again many thanks, so will now look for her family

Last William Moloney this man Haunts me the only death info is that is Eliza Emily re-married in 02/04/1902 , he must have died before then, as on Eliza Mary Edith Maloney's marriage lines on 10th Nov 1901 it gives him as deceased

Once again thanks for your help and will carry on try to find out more info from people on here who have the same names as me, and some have got back to me but many have not, so if they do not answer in a few days will resend them,

Thanks so much Reggie

1911 England Census

Name: Elizabeth Vaughan
Age in 1911: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: CAMBERWELL, England
Civil parish: Deptford St Paul
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 86 Oareboro Rd, Deptford S E
Registration district: Greenwich
Registration District Number: 28
Sub-registration district: Deptford North
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Piece: 2606
Household Members:
Name Age
Edwin Lambert Vaughan 30
Elizabeth Vaughan 25
William George Vaughan 5
Elizabeth Martha Vaughan 0

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Elizabeth Albina Maloney
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Age: 20
Spouse Name: Edwin Lambert Vaughan
Spouse Age: 28
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 24 Dec 1905
Parish: Camberwell Christ Church
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: William George Anthony Maloney
Spouse Father Name: Charles William Alfred Vaughan
Register Type: Parish Register
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England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
Name: Edwin L Vaughan
Birth Date: abt 1877
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1942
Age at Death: 65
Registration district: Surrey Mid Eastern
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 577

MALONEY, WILLIAM GEORGE ANTHONY

Rank: Private
Service No: L/7068
Date of Death: 26/07/1915
Age: 32
Regiment/Service:
The Queen's (Royal West Surrey Regiment)

1st Bn.
Grave Reference
IV. D. 31.
Cemetery
BETHUNE TOWN CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of Mrs. E. Lewis, of 5, Galleywall Rd. Rotherhithe, London.

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Martha Maloney
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Age: 23
Spouse Name: Benjamin Joseph Harris
Spouse Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 25 Dec 1913
Parish: South Bermondsey St Augustine
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: William Maloney
Spouse Father Name: Frederick Charles Harris
Register Type: Parish Register


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006

Name: Benjamin J Harris
Birth Date: abt 1890
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1963
Age at Death: 73
Registration district: Bermondsey
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5c
Page: 228

Deaths Dec 1918 (>99%)
Swain Sarah R E 12 Camberwell 1d 1795
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London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Robert William George Swain
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 22 Apr 1903
Father's Name: Robert Swain
Mother's name: Eliza Swain
Parish or Poor Law Union: Camberwell St Bartholomew
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers

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England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915

Name: Robert W G Swain
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1903
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1914
Age at Death: 11
Registration district: Camberwell
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 1081

1901 England Census about Eliza E Moloney
Name: Eliza E Moloney
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Islington, London, England
Civil parish: Camberwell
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
County/Island: London
Country: England


Registration district: Camberwell
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 43
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 117
Piece: 522
Folio: 16
Page Number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
Eliza E Moloney 38
Eliza Moloney 19
William G Moloney 19
Henry R Moloney 16
Elizabeth Moloney 15
Thomas Moloney 12
Martha Moloney 11

1891 England Census about Harry Lewis
Name: Harry Lewis
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph Lewis
Mother's name: Sarah A Lewis
Gender: Male
Where born: W Hartlepool, Durham, England
Civil parish: Rotherhithe
Ecclesiastical parish: St Katharines
Town: Rotherhithe
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: Rotherhithe
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 385
Folio: 82
Page Number: 68
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Lewis 53
Sarah A Lewis 52
Thos G Lewis 20
Harry Lewis 17
Willm Lewis 14

"re-married in 02/04/1902 at St Philip the Apostle, Camberwell to a Harry Lewis,on the 1911 census a ..Joseph Walter Lewis born 1896 was living with them not sure if hes just Harry son or could possibly be Eliza Emily's, he died in WW1. "

WHEN did Moloney die?

Have you looked at 1901 census for the lad?

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921
Name: Eliza E Moloney
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Age: 39
Spouse Name: Harry Lewis*****************Bachelor
Spouse Age: 35
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 2 Apr 1902
Parish: Camberwell St Philip the Apostle
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: James Buckhurst
Spouse Father Name: Joseph Lewis
Register Type: Parish Register

Witnesses: Eliza Swain and one whose name is virtually illegible, but could be R Brown

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006

Name: Henrietta Harriet M Gray
Birth Date: 30 Apr 1908
Date of Registration: Oct 1995
Age at Death: 87
Registration district: Southwark
Inferred County: London
Register Number: D11A
District and Subdistrict: 2511D
Entry number: 14


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006

Name: Alfred Edward J Gray
Birth Date: 28 Jun 1905
Date of Registration: Apr 2001
Age at Death: 95
Registration district: Amber Valley
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Register Number: B8C
District and Subdistrict: 3921B
Entry number: 223

From freebmd, which you could have found.........

Births Jun 1908 (>99%)
SWAIN Henrietta Harriet M Camberwell 1d 910

Marriages Sep 1931 (>99%)
Gray Alfred E J Swain Deptford 1d 2329
Swain Henrietta H M Gray Deptford 1d 2329


Now look for children

For INFO

1911 census

Person: SWAIN, Eliza Address: 20 Ruby ST
Cost


SWAIN, Robert Head Married M 42 1869 General Labourer Camberwell London VIEW
SWAIN, Eliza Wife Married9 years F 29 1882 Greenwich Kent VIEW
SWAIN, Robert Son M 8 1903 Camberwell London VIEW
SWAIN, Eliza Daughter F 6 1905 Camberwell London VIEW
SWAIN, Sarah Daughter F 4 1907 Camberwell London VIEW
SWAIN, Henrietta Daughter F 2 1909 Camberwell London VIEW
MOLONEY, William Brother In Law Single M 28 1883 General Labourer Greenwich Kent VIEW

Confirms the death I posted

You still haven't provided birth year info..............not sure how you think we can search for these people without it

When you have sent messages to people............have they been opened?

Most people with trees on here are no longer active on the site, and many have changed their e-mail addresses, so will not receive notification

Thanks for your help Reggie

Sorry not replied before but been away for a few days, and I had not notice that Eliza Mary was born in 1881 and it was before her parents were married, and to be honest I think Eliza Emily Moloney nee Buckhurst was a bit of a gal as a son and daughter who she has put down as father William Moloney was born after he died

The Eliza you have put in your post dated 8 Nov could well be her as I went to stay at 20 Ruby Street when I was 11 yrs old and it was with my great Aunt Eliza

Jax
And as for looking at others trees I have sent out many posts, and people do not reply, this does make me mad as we all should help each other, if i get a post I always reply even if they are not connected to my tree

But thanks for you help both of you

Marj