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Roy Herbert
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27 Oct 2012 20:33 |
I am searching living relatives in Newcastle. They would be 1st cousins of my mum Agnes nee Rudge, married to Edmund Rennan, Norway. My mothers mum and dad where Mary Nicol Tait and Horace Charles Rudge.
Relatives I am searching for are Margaret and Winnie and I belive they also where born Tait.
If anyone has any information that could help me to make contact or any other information please contact me.
Roy H. Rennan
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KathleenBell
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27 Oct 2012 21:21 |
Roy,
Have you looked under "search" at the top right of the screen and then pick off "search all trees"? If you do that and enter any of the names you mention you can see if anyone on here has any of these people in their tree and you can then send them a private message directly.
Kath. x
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brummiejan
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27 Oct 2012 21:59 |
So - these would be Mary Nicol Tait's nieces? Children of her brother (s) if born Tait. If you have no luck finding matches on here, you need to check out who her brothers were. jan
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patchem
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27 Oct 2012 22:01 |
Is this your Mother's parents' marriage, as slightly different names used?: Marriages Mar 1921 Rudge Harry C Tait Newcastle T. 10b 195 Tait Mary Rudge Newcastle T. 10b 195
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brummiejan
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27 Oct 2012 22:02 |
I wonder where the Nicol came from?
Marriages Mar 1921 Rudge Harry C Tait Newcastle T. 10b 195 Tait Mary Rudge Newcastle T. 10b 195
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patchem
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27 Oct 2012 22:45 |
Death? Were either of your Mother's parents born in Newcastle? Mary N Rudge Birth Date: abt 1900 Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1945 Age at Death: 45 Registration district: Brentwood Inferred County: Essex Volume: 4a Page: 612
Horace Charles Rudge Birth Date: 7 Feb 1897 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1983 Age at Death: 86 Registration district: Enfield Inferred County: Greater London Volume: 12 Page: 0363
Why did they marry in Newcastle? Births Mar 1897 Rudge Horace Charles Edmonton 3a 502
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patchem
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27 Oct 2012 22:58 |
Helpful thread:
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/trying_to_find/thread/1251735
from another grandson.
But if correct there were no brothers for Mary. So single Mother births for Winnie and Margaret?
Added: Births Jun 1912 Tait Winifred Tait Newcastle T. 10b 344
There is a Margaret birth in Newcastle in 1924, but others elsewhere also.
3 people on here have Winifred Tait, 1912, Newcastle, in their trees.
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ErikaH
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27 Oct 2012 23:58 |
Try doing some research on freebmd..............if you wish to trace people, you need accurate info....not what you 'believe'................which may not be correct
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ErikaH
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28 Oct 2012 00:01 |
1911 England Census
Name: Horace Charles Rudge Age in 1911: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Enfield Civil parish: Enfield County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address: 42 Uckfield Road, Enfield Wash, Middx Marital Status: Single Occupation: Milk Boy Registration district: Edmonton Registration District Number: 132 Sub-registration district: Enfield ED, institution, or vessel: 30 Household schedule number: 206 Piece: 7437 Household Members: Name Age George Rudge 50 Florence Louisa Rudge 45 Florence Hester Rudge 23 George Burton Rudge 22 Albert Edward Rudge 20 Hilda Mary Rudge 18 John Rudge 16 Horace Charles Rudge 14 Alice May Rudge 11 Leonard Baden Rudge 9 Nellie Rudge 7 Herbert Rudge 5 Phillip Rudge 3 Vera Rudge 1 Clarence Jones 2
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ErikaH
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28 Oct 2012 00:03 |
1911 England Census
Name: Mary N Tait Age in 1911: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Birth Place: Ncle Upon Tyne Civil parish: Westgate County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Street Address: 24 Pitt St Newcastle Marital Status: Single Occupation: At School Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne Registration District Number: 558 Sub-registration district: St Nicholas ED, institution, or vessel: 10 Piece: 30625 Household Members: Name Age Michael Young 47 Elizabeth Jane Young 38 Michael Young 13 Phillis Hodgkisson 12 Mary Elizabeth Young 6 David Young 5 Florrence Young 2 Elizabeth Young 1 James Tait 49 Mary N Tait 11 Margaret Tait 8 Isabella Tait 17 Sarah Timpson 65
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Roy Herbert
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28 Oct 2012 11:00 |
Hi First of all thanks for all the feedback.
My grandad Horace Charles Rudge was born in London feb 7. 1897 and my grandmother Mary Nicol Tait in Dumfriesshire, Scotland nov 22 1899. They where married january 12. 1921 in Newcastle. Horace was registered as Harry Charles Rudge. Why they married in Newcastle I do not know, but my grandad was wounded in the WWI by Marne in France and came to Edinburgh where he met Mary, and perhaps then moved down to Newcastle.
From the 1911 census I find Mary Nicol her father James who is a vidower at that time and Marys two sisters Margaret b. 1903 and Isabell b. 1894. There was also a sister by the name Jane.
Isabell died young. The living relatives in Newcastle Margaret and Winnie I do not know if their mother was Margaret or Jane. When it comes to Margaret and Winnie I have their surnames after marriage and I also have an old adress to them both. I have been searching for and trying to find a new adress, but so far no luck. I guess I can`t put their surnames on this board for privacy reasons.
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patchem
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28 Oct 2012 11:37 |
The 1911 census that Reggie posted (which is also on the other thread that I gave the link to) says that Mary N was born in Newcastle. In fact all the family claim to be born in Newcastle - so why do you believe this is your Mary?
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patchem
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28 Oct 2012 11:51 |
Copied over from that linked thread the 1911 family in 1901. This one claims father born in Scotland, but not the rest of the family: TAIT, James Head Married M 38 1863 Skinner Scotland TAIT, Agnes Wife Married F 28 1873 Newcastle on Tyne Northumberland TAIT, Jane A Daughter F 8 1893 Newcastle on Tyne Northumberland TAIT, Isabella Daughter F 7 1894 Newcastle on Tyne Northumberland TAIT, Mary Daughter F 1 1900 Newcastle on Tyne Northumberland
RG number: RG13 Piece: 4766 Folio: 109 Page: 39 Registration District: Newcastle upon Tyne Sub District: Westgate Enumeration District: 4 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Philip Civil Parish: Westgate Municipal Borough: Address: 24, Pitt Street, Westgate County: Northumberland
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patchem
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28 Oct 2012 12:00 |
1891 England Census James Tait Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Agnes Tait Gender: Male Where born: Scotland Civil parish: St Andrew Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew Town: Newcastle upon Tyne County/Island: Northumberland Country: England Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne Sub-registration district: St Andrew ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Piece: 4205 Folio: 55 Page Number: 57 James Tait 27 Agnes Tait 19 Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4205; Folio: 55; Page: 57; GSU roll: 6099315.
Do you know the author of that linked thread?
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patchem
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28 Oct 2012 12:05 |
If Winnie was born in 1912 it is quite likely she has since died. Her birth certificate will give an exact date of birth and who is her Mother. As there are several possible births for Margaret, and a variety of marriages for both, you must have obtained marriage information from others. What other leads have they given you? Yes, you can put their new surnames on here, just leave off the precise marriage details, just put place and year.
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Roy Herbert
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28 Oct 2012 16:16 |
The author of the linked thread is my cousin Stefan. His mother was my aunt Ellen (Nellie) Rudge. He has also been searching for relatives of us living or lived in Newcastle.
Winnie married Bruce and Margaret married Gross. I have no information of when they married.
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patchem
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28 Oct 2012 16:54 |
You can look for marriages on free bmd: http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Unfortunately I cannot see either of those marriages. Do you know the area? Is Bruce the surname? Where did the information come from? Thanks
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Roy Herbert
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29 Oct 2012 08:35 |
The information came from my mum. After she passed away I found the names and adr. in her notebook, but she did also tell me of her cousins in Newcastle.
Gross is the surname Margaret had after marriage and Winnie married to someone with the surname Bruce. I could put the old addresses on here if it is OK to do so.
I have had a closer look into albums from my mum and i find a photo of a young man and where she has written on the back of the photo "My cousin Horace Tait living in Newcastle". When I think of it I do remember her telling of him. I am pretty sure that he was Margaret and Winnies brother.
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patchem
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29 Oct 2012 18:37 |
There are very few Horace Tait births. There is this birth in free bmd: Births Jun 1920 Tait Horace J A Tait Leicester 7a 521 and subsequent death: Horace James A Tait Birth Date: 13 Apr 1920 Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1972 Age at Death: 52 Registration district: Huntingdon Inferred County: Huntingdonshire Volume: 4b Page: 958 so nothing to do with Newcastle.
You could apply for the certificate for Winifred, as you have no proof that she is related.
There is this marriage, with some details removed for privacy: Marriages Mar 1950 Tait Horace C Ord Newcastle T. which is more promising, but I cannot see any birth for Horace C.
Added: Horace C appears to be on 192.com in Newcastle. Worth applying to see address?
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ErikaH
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30 Oct 2012 09:46 |
You are, it seems, making a lot of guesses............
You don't appear to have done any research..............try using freebmd
Horace 'living' in Newcastle does not mean that he was born there
The old addresses are not necessary..........just the name of the town/village.and the approx. year when they were applicable
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