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You could try contacting some of the people on here;

http://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/TAIT

Births Jun 1892 (>99%)
Tait Jane Annie Newcastle T. 10b 97

The parents of the family on the censuses.........

Marriages Sep 1890 (>99%)
BOOTHROYD Margaret Elizabeth Newcastle T. 10b 91
GARDNER Agnes Newcastle On Tyne 10b 91
Tait James Newcastle T. 10b 91
WATSON William Newcastle T 10b 91

This MAY be Margaret in 1911............

1911 census

Person: TAIT, Margaret Address: Upsall Thirsk

Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where born Image
TURTON, Edmund Rissbrough Head Married M 53 1858 Jp Ds Yorkshire Thirsk VIEW
TURTON, K Sarahlementina Wife Married22 years F 51 1860 London St James VIEW
TURTON, Edmund Spencer Son Single M 21 1890 Officer In The Tramway London Chelsea VIEW
WYNTER, Hermine Francis Visitor Single F 26 1885 VIEW
TUPLING, Rebecca Servant Single F 29 1882 Cook Housekeeper Domestic Kingston Yorks VIEW
ATKINSON, Edith Servant Single F 28 1883 Lady's Maid Domestic Yorkshire Hutton Crawick VIEW
BRUMFIELD, Edith Servant Single F 30 1881 Housemaid Domestic Lincolnshire Hougham VIEW
MCGUNAGLE, Mary Servant Married F 32 1879 Laundry Maid Domestic Lincolnshire Barrow in F VIEW
BOYES, Ellen Servant Single F 22 1889 Housemaid Domestic Yorkshire Osmotherley VIEW
AMOS, Nellie Servant Single F 24 1887 Kitchenmaid Domestic Yorkshire York VIEW
HOLMES, Maude Servant Single F 24 1887 Laundry Maid Domestic Lancashire Barrow in Furness VIEW
HAWKSBY, Mary Servant Single F 17 1894 Housemaid Domestic VIEW
TAIT, Margaret Servant Single F 18 1893 Scullery Maid Domestic Northumberland N;castle VIEW
SHERWOOD, Frederick Servant Single M 24 1887 Footman Domestic Yorkshire Hovingham VIEW
RG number: RG14
Piece: 29052
Reference: RG14PN29052 RG78PN1678 RD530 SD2 ED13 SN15
Registration District: Thirsk
Sub District: Thirsk
Enumeration District: 13
Parish: Upsall

Do you have your grandmother's birth cert?

As far as one can tell, your grandmother did not have any brothers..........are you seriously suggesting that all of her nephews and nieces (of whom you have given details on here) were illegitimate? And, presumably, all having the same mother..............

Deaths Dec 1911 (>99%)
Tait Isabella 17 Newcastle T. 10b 149

1901 records a Margaret aged 8...........not with family in 1911

There is, however, a Jane aged 18 in 1911, who isn't on 1901

I'm not rubbishing your ideas..........just trying to rationalise the situation......

You are, it seems, making a lot of guesses............

You don't appear to have done any research..............try using freebmd

Horace 'living' in Newcastle does not mean that he was born there

The old addresses are not necessary..........just the name of the town/village.and the approx. year when they were applicable

There are very few Horace Tait births.
There is this birth in free bmd:
Births Jun 1920
Tait Horace J A Tait Leicester 7a 521
and subsequent death:
Horace James A Tait
Birth Date: 13 Apr 1920
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1972
Age at Death: 52
Registration district: Huntingdon
Inferred County: Huntingdonshire
Volume: 4b
Page: 958
so nothing to do with Newcastle.

You could apply for the certificate for Winifred, as you have no proof that she is related.

There is this marriage, with some details removed for privacy:
Marriages Mar 1950
Tait Horace C Ord Newcastle T.
which is more promising, but I cannot see any birth for Horace C.

Added:
Horace C appears to be on 192.com in Newcastle.
Worth applying to see address?

The information came from my mum. After she passed away I found the names and adr. in her notebook, but she did also tell me of her cousins in Newcastle.

Gross is the surname Margaret had after marriage and Winnie married to someone with the surname Bruce. I could put the old addresses on here if it is OK to do so.

I have had a closer look into albums from my mum and i find a photo of a young man and where she has written on the back of the photo "My cousin Horace Tait living in Newcastle". When I think of it I do remember her telling of him. I am pretty sure that he was Margaret and Winnies brother.

You can look for marriages on free bmd:
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Unfortunately I cannot see either of those marriages. Do you know the area?
Is Bruce the surname?
Where did the information come from?
Thanks

The author of the linked thread is my cousin Stefan. His mother was my aunt Ellen (Nellie) Rudge. He has also been searching for relatives of us living or lived in Newcastle.

Winnie married Bruce and Margaret married Gross. I have no information of when they married.

If Winnie was born in 1912 it is quite likely she has since died.
Her birth certificate will give an exact date of birth and who is her Mother.
As there are several possible births for Margaret, and a variety of marriages for both, you must have obtained marriage information from others. What other leads have they given you?
Yes, you can put their new surnames on here, just leave off the precise marriage details, just put place and year.

1891 England Census
James Tait Age: 27 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Agnes Tait
Gender: Male Where born: Scotland
Civil parish: St Andrew Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew Town: Newcastle upon Tyne County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne Sub-registration district: St Andrew
ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Piece: 4205 Folio: 55 Page Number: 57
James Tait 27
Agnes Tait 19
Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 4205; Folio: 55; Page: 57; GSU roll: 6099315.

Do you know the author of that linked thread?

Copied over from that linked thread the 1911 family in 1901.
This one claims father born in Scotland, but not the rest of the family:
TAIT, James Head Married M 38 1863 Skinner Scotland
TAIT, Agnes Wife Married F 28 1873 Newcastle on Tyne Northumberland
TAIT, Jane A Daughter F 8 1893 Newcastle on Tyne Northumberland
TAIT, Isabella Daughter F 7 1894 Newcastle on Tyne Northumberland
TAIT, Mary Daughter F 1 1900 Newcastle on Tyne Northumberland

RG number: RG13 Piece: 4766 Folio: 109 Page: 39
Registration District: Newcastle upon Tyne Sub District: Westgate Enumeration District: 4 Ecclesiastical Parish: St Philip Civil Parish: Westgate Municipal Borough: Address: 24, Pitt Street, Westgate County: Northumberland

The 1911 census that Reggie posted (which is also on the other thread that I gave the link to) says that Mary N was born in Newcastle. In fact all the family claim to be born in Newcastle - so why do you believe this is your Mary?

Hi
First of all thanks for all the feedback.

My grandad Horace Charles Rudge was born in London feb 7. 1897 and my grandmother Mary Nicol Tait in Dumfriesshire, Scotland nov 22 1899. They where married january 12. 1921 in Newcastle. Horace was registered as Harry Charles Rudge. Why they married in Newcastle I do not know, but my grandad was wounded in the WWI by Marne in France and came to Edinburgh
where he met Mary, and perhaps then moved down to Newcastle.

From the 1911 census I find Mary Nicol her father James who is a vidower at that time and Marys two sisters Margaret b. 1903 and Isabell b. 1894. There was also a sister by the name Jane.

Isabell died young. The living relatives in Newcastle Margaret and Winnie I do not know if their mother was Margaret or Jane. When it comes to Margaret and Winnie I have their surnames after marriage and I also have an old adress to them both. I have been searching for and trying to find a new adress, but so far no luck. I guess I can`t put their surnames on this board for privacy reasons.

1911 England Census

Name: Mary N Tait
Age in 1911: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Ncle Upon Tyne
Civil parish: Westgate
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street Address: 24 Pitt St Newcastle
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: At School
Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
Registration District Number: 558
Sub-registration district: St Nicholas
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Piece: 30625
Household Members:
Name Age
Michael Young 47
Elizabeth Jane Young 38
Michael Young 13
Phillis Hodgkisson 12
Mary Elizabeth Young 6
David Young 5
Florrence Young 2
Elizabeth Young 1
James Tait 49
Mary N Tait 11
Margaret Tait 8
Isabella Tait 17
Sarah Timpson 65

1911 England Census

Name: Horace Charles Rudge
Age in 1911: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Enfield
Civil parish: Enfield
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: 42 Uckfield Road, Enfield Wash, Middx
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Milk Boy
Registration district: Edmonton
Registration District Number: 132
Sub-registration district: Enfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Household schedule number: 206
Piece: 7437
Household Members:
Name Age
George Rudge 50
Florence Louisa Rudge 45
Florence Hester Rudge 23
George Burton Rudge 22
Albert Edward Rudge 20
Hilda Mary Rudge 18
John Rudge 16
Horace Charles Rudge 14
Alice May Rudge 11
Leonard Baden Rudge 9
Nellie Rudge 7
Herbert Rudge 5
Phillip Rudge 3
Vera Rudge 1
Clarence Jones 2

Try doing some research on freebmd..............if you wish to trace people, you need accurate info....not what you 'believe'................which may not be correct

Helpful thread:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/trying_to_find/thread/1251735

from another grandson.

But if correct there were no brothers for Mary.
So single Mother births for Winnie and Margaret?

Added:
Births Jun 1912
Tait Winifred Tait Newcastle T. 10b 344

There is a Margaret birth in Newcastle in 1924, but others elsewhere also.

3 people on here have Winifred Tait, 1912, Newcastle, in their trees.