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thanks everyone for your help

that 1881 says Henry born North Shields, the 1891 is not very clear
No Shields ...berland, or probably just Northumberland lol

probably is, but until we know where and what it isn't easy.

where was henry born?

I'm sure there is Paul, but given that there are already two mistranscriptions of the name it may be difficult to find, that's where his father's name may help to find him.

cant believe there is no earl;ier census information for henry

Paul the marriage I found for Matilda does not give any more detail than posted unfortunately, you would need to get the certificate to see who she married , father's name will be on it , but not mother's maiden name.

Yea true coz I can't find henry gilling on earlier cencusis wen he lived with his parents.someone found possible marriage for matilda in belfast earlier in post if it told mothers maiden name I'd know it was her

Paul you have her as Ann Brooks on your tree on Ancestry, you must buy Matilda's birth cert from the GRO to confirm her parents names,
when you are certain of that then this is likely to be the marriage, buying the certificate for it will give you Henry and Ann's father's names and occupations...which will help you pinpoint Henry's on census before his marriage.

Marriages Mar 1875 (>99%)
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BROOKS Ann Durham 10a 529
GILLING Henry Durham 10a 529

andrew gilling was born shadforth ,durham in 1888 thats my mams dad.he had siblings....elizabeth s gilling(who on 1901 census had a george hudson listed as son in law)margaret gilling....matilda(mithilda?)walter,john.thomas.i have found living relatives of john and walter gilling.cant find were thomas.elizabeth.mithilda,margaret went after 1901 census.all the above were born shadforth or there about..any help on who there father henry gilling born north shields and his age flucuates from 1846-1853.and his wife who i think was annie crooks though there is another possible wife annie kilbride.thanks in advance

Just an outside chance

Name: Matilda Gilling
Registration District: Belfast
Event Type: MARRIAGES
Registration Quarter and Year: Jan - Mar 1914
Estimated Birth Year:
Age (at Death):
Mother's Maiden Name:
Film Number: 101262
Volume Number: 1
Page Number: 276
Digital Folder Number: 4199364
Image Number: 00597

from familysearch.org

I'm afraid I am not well up on NI marriages and records, so perhaps someone else can check it out.

were do you look for irish marriages?i take it she went to derry

Paul, I have looked at the 1911 Irish census which you can find free at

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/

Searching for Gilling does not find Matilda,though there is one Walter Gilling in Co Down who was not there in 1901. It is possible that Matilda did go to Ireland and married there before the 1911 census so you would have to look for a marriage for her first..

Paul what ever you have been told, what ever the census says, her name was registered as MATILDA.
its pointless looking at other spellings in records.

can you get me or to lead me to that last census.my mam was told by her aunt mithilda/merilda went to ireland and she looked like another family member.iv found john gilling only on 1911 census andrew gilling was my grandad

on the 1891 Ann born Ireland

on the 1881 specifies Derry

1881 England Census
about Margaret Gillan Name: Margaret Gillan
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry Gillan
Mother's Name: Annie Gillan
Gender: Female
Where born: Shadforth, Durham, England

Civil parish: Shadforth
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address: Shadforth Village
Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Durham
Sub-registration district: St Nicholas
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4963
Folio: 81
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Gillan 35
Annie Gillan 23
Elizabeth Gillan 5
Margaret Gillan 2

bit of a discrepancy here so not entirely sure.....

They like to mistranscribe this family lol

1891 England Census
about Andrew Yelling Name: Andrew Yelling
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry Yelling
Mother's Name: Ann Yelling
Gender: Male
Where born: Shadforth, Durham, England

Civil parish: Shadforth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Cuthberts
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Durham
Sub-registration district: St Nicholas
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4105
Folio: 45
Page Number: 14
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Yelling 38
Ann Yelling 30
Sarah E Yelling 16
Margaret Yelling 11
John H Yelling 10
Thomas W Yelling 7
Andrew Yelling 3
Mathilda Yelling 1/12

Paul just come across one of your old posts 2011, which mentions different parents for Matilda, have you bought her birth cert?

Parents as per the 1901 were born in Durham (Henry) and Derbyshire ( Annie)...not Ireland.

have you any more details that might help with a search?

removed hun thanks

Have PMd Paul to please return to thread and remove email addy

Probable death of the father
Mar 1905 (>99%)


Gilling Henry 53 Durham 10a 287

and possibly mother?? though may not be

Deaths Sep 1904 (>99%)

GILLING Annie 46 Durham 10a 235