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ah, could be, because the interruption in the other person's listing over the years does seem odd!

any case, that person is definitely the Florence E who was a sister of Joseph/Ernest

... so even if she is not the Eileen being searched for, there is every chance she would know Les's daughter I would think

Joonie, Not helpful to the search but just a comment on the 192 details showing who lived at the same address in that year, I have found that if the property is rented the landlord and tenant sometimes appear to be living 'together', so there may not be any connection. :-)

Florence E married and seems to have had one child
... Julie 1962

I see no other trace of her after that

I wonder whether she reverted to her birth name:

http://tinyurl.com/ofu8nt8

I can't figure out the relationship but this person was living with her about 10 years ago:

http://tinyurl.com/pms7wda

that listing is for 2009; an earlier one is in Stockton on Tees

... and other info on line shows that person's middle name to be definitely Eileen (birthdate is correct and there was only one born that year or close):

http://tinyurl.com/odbz2w5

this seems to be a possible lead

(Les - this is where birth, marriage and death records can be found
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl)

when you say Eileen 'married under the name of', do you mean
- that was the name of the man she married
or
- that was her name when she married
?
Smith and Wells are rather different, what is your memory of those names? was one her name at the time you knew her?

If Eileen was married at the time she had your daughter, the baby would have had to be registered with Eileen's husband's name. No idea what that was, if that was the case?


a Lilian P'n married in 1955 in the right place and there was only one child to that marriage, Elaine, in 1959

she was the youngest of numerous children ... could Joseph/Ernest have been a cousin?

is there any chance that your memory is slightly foggy and this would fit?

Rose's suggestion of Jean (who maybe went by Gina if she was a singer? the inspiration for Heartbeat's Gina?!) with daughter Eileen would certainly fit well if memory was foggy

also the sister Florence ... their mother was Florence so she may have gone by middle name ... as Ernest seems to have done

actually I think Jean was not a sister of Joseph/Ernest, she may more likely have been a a child of a couple with the same surnames who married earlier


(Les, go to page 2)

You can look up old electoral rolls for 7, Whorlton Road at the library nearest to that address. That would give you correct names.

Rose

Les,

Where did you get Ernest's date of death from?

You said "Ernest has died on 7th May 1960 age 20 years" which would tie in with this record:

Deaths Jun 1960
PATTISON Joseph E 20 Durham S.E. 1a 629

Rose

I have been of line for a while as I been to Stockton on Tees to see if I could dig up some more information about my daughter Gina. The nearest I came to is where my daughter's mother was living when I first met her. In 1959/60, was 7, Whorlton Road Stockton on Tees. I also think that my daughter's mother possibly married under a name Smith or Wells. When I first met my daughter's mother my English was not very good so I did not possessed enough details about the family.There is a bit that keeps repeating in my mind that my daughter's mother may have had another brother possibly called David?

There are several people on here who have Pattisons who were born in Stockton in their trees.

There was also a sister Jean who possibly had a daughter Eileen if you have the names switched.

Rose

PM from Les:

"Ernest has died on 7th May 1960 age 20 years".

Not sure how he has the exact date when he seems unsure of other details.

Rose

NO Gina but there is a Julie as Rose has said

You say the mum Florence/Eileen was married but according to the records this wasnt till 1962 so doesnt tie with a 1961 birth ?

If Earnest were known by his middle name there's this:

Deaths Jun 1960
PATTISON Joseph E 20 Durham S.E. 1a 629

He had a sister called Florence whose middle initial was E. Could this be Eileen?

Their mother was also called Florence.

She married in 1961.

Rose

I see you have edited some parts of the original posting. You have added the surname and Irene is now Eileen.

It seems as though you are a little unsure of the names. Are you sure it is Gina? I see a Julie who could fit.

Rose

Have you got a rough birth year for Eileen and for Ernest?
When do you think Ernest died?
Thank-you

Gina's mother was married and her maiden name was Eilene Pattison

There are very few Gina's born in 1960 in the area. Was her mother married?
Thanks

No response form Les. Without a name it's impossible to help.

Rose

Les,

Send me the details and I will take a look.

Rose

I believe my daughter's name is Gina her morher's maiden name is Eilene Pattison
and lived in stockton-on-Tees