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Yes. When I knew her she was probably around late 50s or early 60s but being a callow teenager she just appeared to me to be old. I also remember that she left the firm where we worked after I had been there for a couple of years.
I have just found in the 1901 census a family called Walters from Woking Surrey who had two children William aged 6 and Emily aged 5. I am now starting to wonder if this was my Emily. I have a feeling that she may have had a brother.
So they were not the children of my grandfather after all but of some other previously unsuspected branch of the Walters family.
Research continues!
Thanks again to all who have been helping me :-)

Oh dear! I am being curmudgeonly in not using the Board correctly and replying by using the "Send Message" button rather than the "Add your reply" box at the end of the the thread.
Apologies to all.
I am very grateful that skilled researchers like yourselves are interested in helping me.
Whilst it is true that I had much of the information you turned up I did not know that my grandfather had an older sister called Lucy, nor did the details revealed by the 1911 census.
Incidentally, my grandfather's father, also confusingly called William, died before he was born, so my great grandmother Lucy was left with a very small child and one yet to be born. Not easy.

Until John provides some answers, there's no way of knowing.

As William was a serving soldier, he could have married and sired offspring overseas. I certainly haven't been able to find him in 1891.

John's PM to me was , as I said, lengthy, but it contained nothing which was in any way helpful.

Does that mean that Emily was born between 1881 and 1901?

Thanks Flick. :-D

Yes, Cynthia, I've had a very lengthy PM, to which I responded with advice about posting replies on here...............

Perhaps he'll answer our questions when he finds his way back here again.........

xx

Has John been in touch with you then Flick? He has opened but not replied to my second reminder..... :-S


Cx.

For anyone else looking at this..the info about William is the right man.........John already had all of it (apart from 1911)

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1871

Name: Lucy Walters
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Shiere, Surrey, England
Civil parish: Yoxford
Town: Yoxford
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Registration district: Blything
Sub-registration district: Westleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 144
Piece: 1768
Folio: 19
Page Number: 29
Household Members: Name Age
Edward Lawyer 55
Jane Lawyer 56
John C Lomax 17
Alice C Lomax 12
Ellen Lomax 10
Mary C Windsor 26
Charles Watkins 24
Orlando Goldsmith 15
Lucy Walters 35 **********Widow
Eve C Chapman 26
Mary C Ford 18
Dinah Mayhew 30
_________________________________________________

1861

Name: Lucy Walters
[Lucy Puttock]
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1837
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Ann Puttock
Gender: Female
Where born: Shere, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Shere
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England


Registration district: Guildford
Sub-registration district: Albury
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 138
Piece: 426
Folio: 46
Page Number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Puttock 65
Emma Puttock 26
Lucy Walters 24
Lucy Walters 1


Ancestry have attached the wrong image for 1861.............so I can't check the marital status

Name: Lucy Walters
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 01 Jan 1860
Baptism/Christening Place: SHERE,SURREY,ENGLAND
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: William Walters
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Lucy
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01377-4
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 1042201
Reference Number:

I realise that none of the info relates to the man's descendants, but it's often necessary to work backwards before one is able to come forwards

WILLIAM WALTERS

Birth:
Christening: 26 JAN 1862 Shere, Surrey, England

Parents:
Father: WILLIAM WALTERS
Mother: LUCY


Batch No.: C013774

I can't see him in 1891...possibly serving overseas

1901

Name: William Walters
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Shere, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Woking
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England


Registration district: Guildford
Sub-registration district: Woking
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 108
Piece: 596
Folio: 56
Page Number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
Deborah Moore 57
Uri Moore 22
William Walters 39 ********************Widower
Frank James 22
Frank Bishop 22
Walter Bishop 19

1881

Name: William Walters
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Gender: Male
Where born: Spire, Surrey, England

Civil parish: Aldershot
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address: "1st Battalion 2nd Queens Royal Regimemt"
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Private 1/2nd Regiment

Registration district: Farnham
Sub-registration district: Frimley
ED, institution, or vessel: First Battalion 2nd Queens Royal Regiment
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 786
Folio: 28
Page Number: 13

Using the GUILDFORD info (thank you ,Cynthia)....................why didn't you include the location in your post, John?........................


Births Dec 1861 (>99%)
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WALTERS William Guildford 2a 50
_______________________________________________

Marriages Dec 1902 (>99%)
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Eyre Gertrude Binford Guildford 2a 183
Moore Alice Sophia Guildford 2a 183 <<<<<<<<<<
Morrison Alexander Guildford 2a 183
Walters William Guildford 2a 183 <<<<<<<<<<<
___________________________________________________

1911

1911 census - household transcription
Person: WALTERS, William
Address: 19 Westbourne Street W


CLAYTON-EAST, Augusta Marianne Head Spinster F 50 1861 Independent Paddington VIEW
WALTER, Alice Sophia Servant Married F 45 1866 House Keeper Sherley N and S Northampton VIEW
WALTERS, William Of The Above Married M 49 1862 Army Pensioner Door Attendant Shere Surrey VIEW
DAVIES, Mary Violet House Parlourmaid Spinster F 21 1890 House Parlourmaid Domestic Goldstone Surrey VIEW
WALTERS, John Son Of William Walters M 7 1904 School Woking Surrey VIEW
WALTERS, Wallace Robert Son Of William Walters M 5 1906 School Flat Hants VIEW


This may be a red herring, as there were no penalties for not registering births until 1875, and 'your' William's birth may simply not have been registered.

We need you to answer the questions posed.........

I let John know about his replies to both this and his thread on Find Ancestors (Ann Walters).

He has replied to me but I don't think he has been able to find his way back - he is in Australia but I have assured him that there are always people around 24.7. :-D


John, if you get back here........as well as replying to the queries, it would be worthwhile taking jax's advice and putting the names you are researching into the Search trees box above.


You have William down as being born in Guildford - there are 4 or 5 other members who have the same person in their trees. You can contact them for further information.


Cx.

To find marriage(s). look at the following site

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Who were his parents?

Where was he born?

When did you work with Emily?

Was she single? How old would she have been?

If you get his wedding certificate it will have his Father's name on it, which will help in finding him in the censuses, and possibly directly show his first family.
Do you know when his second marriage took place - when was your Father born?
Thanks

Added:
This death?
William Walters
Birth Date: abt 1862
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1937
Age at Death: 75
Registration district: Lambeth
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 1d
Page: 331

Where was william born? also where did he die? who was his 2nd wife?

Have you tried to find his marriage on freebmd?

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

Have you tried the search trees for any connections?