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Beatles in the 60's were fantastic.All my loving i will send to them, then and always!!! D.G. N. IRELAND

To Pat in Concentric Circles, 'Thank You' I think that was the most decent, sensible, reply I have had ! 'One Mans Meat ' 'Is another Mans Poison ' I also like different kinds of music, ( believe it or not ) from Classical to Country ! And I agree with what Pat says, everyone to their own! but I will not budge on my opinion of the Beatles ! whether some of you like it or not. Its just the same with football ! because I am from Liverpool people here think I am from another planet, when I tell them I hate Football ? crazy world ?

Well Said, Pat....... When I was younger, in the 60's I played in a three man group, we had two semi-permanent gigs, one a pub in west ham, and the other a working mans club,in east ham. In the pub we played what the punters wanted.......modern rock n roll stuff, and in the working mens club we played any thing from rock n roll to the 1914-18 soldiers songs and others of that period. Privately I preferred classics, and still do. Eddie, you dislike what YOU dislike, but others have their own preferences..... Bob.

Hello again, When Eddie first put this thread up about the Beatles I added to it as I am a fan of the fab four, I wasn't rude to him or Eddie rude to me. I did not realise then that this thread would continue on and on, well all I can say is well done Eddie for generating so many replies, not all very nice I have to say but thats the way it goes. I would just like to say why can't people believe that there are people out there who do not like the same as the majority? Chunks you went to see Kylie Minogue yesterday I could have said I cannot stand her, I could have also said I know Hip Hop and Rap artists that have more talent then her, but Deb the other one in Canada would not believe me. How boring if we all liked the same people and Music? If Eddie prefers Bing Crosby and Perry Como to the fab four it's his perogative ain't it? I prefer Reggae to Pop but I am in the minority, I don't tell everyone else you are wrong and I don't expect everyone to tell me I am wrong either. Although after saying that I like loads of different types of music, not just one style, I have an open mind where music is concerned. I think people forget how certain sections of society viewed Rock n Roll, they thought it was the end of decency as they knew it. LOL I go back to what Gwynne said I think she summed it up for me. Eddie enjoy what you like best and I will enjoy what I like best. Pat x Oh and before I close I really do not care who likes what group, singer or style of music, it will not make a difference to my choice.

still patiently awaiting a reply, Eddie.

Eddie, I will stand up and say, yes i critisised you.. allbeit light heartedly, but you have to understand, without any knowledge or background of where you are coming from, people on here can only judge you from what is said on here and taken at face value. you are adament in your resolution against the beatles, but offer no real insight as to why, apart from lambasting them. Perhaps people would take you more seriously and understand your dislike of them if you were more indepth about your opinions.

Christpher Dunne Deane, ' did I work on the docks ? how insulting ! what with my talent ?

To Gray Ward, 'Proud ? you have to be joking ! More to the point, I feel ashamed ! that four no marks ! spoilt the image of Liverpool, are you forgetting the flower power days and drug taking ?

Eddie, I'd delete the word c**p if I were you. :-) We are all entitled to our opinions. Just thought it would be interesting to read those of the American musicologist Alan W. Pollack. :-) Joy

Joy Kentish Maid, 'It is still crap in my book !

Yes Andy! lol

did i get the 100 post ...????

I find this interesting, from the net: http://www.icce.rug.nl/~soundscapes/VOLUME01/A_Beatles_Odyssey.html Alan W. Pollack's musicological journey through the Beatles' songs by Ger Tillekens ---------------------------------------------------------------------- In many ways the songs of the Beatles are exemplary for the musical innovations the British beat explosion wrought onto the domain of popular music in the sixties. With their music the British groups forged a highly original combination out of the erstwhile separate elements of other musical styles, which quickly evolved to become a full-blown style of its own: the music we nowadays know as pop or rock music. The Beatles stood at the front-lines of this artistic movement and their songs offer worthwhile material for those who want to know more about the musical characteristics of rock music. And, there's help for those who want to study these songs. Since 1989 everyone can look for assistance on the internet in the Notes on ... Series, written by the American musicologist Alan W. Pollack on each and every Beatles' song. 1 Chains of pan-diatonic clusters. Think yourself back to the city of London at the end of the year 1963 and meanwhile keep in mind that the virus of Beatlemania at that moment still was restricted to the British Isles and beat music was seen as music for adolescent boys and girls. Then and there only a few adults took the sound of the four Beatles seriously. Yet there were some who did and among them there was at least one real musicologist. If you had been there on the right day and you had bought the distinguished British paper The Times, out of the first hand you could have read an extensive musicological article devoted to the Beatles. This early assessment was full of praise for their musical accomplishments, but also phrased in a kind of learned musicological language that contrasted sharply with the self-concept of the rising youth culture. Read the next quote to know what the author heard in songs, most young people in those days just danced or sat down to listen to. ''Their noisy items are the ones that arouse teenagers' excitement. Glutinous crooning is generally out of fashion these days, and even a song about 'Misery' sounds fundamentally quite cheerful; the slow, sad song about 'That Boy', which figures prominently in Beatle programmes, is expressively unusual for its lugubrious music, but harmonically it is one of their most intriguing, with its chains of pan-diatonic clusters, and the sentiment is acceptable because voiced cleanly and crisply. But harmonic interest is typical of their quicker songs too, and one gets the impression that they think simultaneously of harmony and melody, so firmly are the major tonic sevenths and ninths built into their tunes, and the flat submediant key switches, so natural is the Aeolian cadence at the end of 'Not a Second Time'' (the chord progression which ends Mahler's 'Song of the Earth').''

OK Eddie...you keep mentioning 'Yellow Submarine' and I agree absolute rubbish.....it isn't the only song they wrote ..and yes we have yeah...yeah...yeah....but look at some of their other lyrics...and delete them from the 60's and what would you have......

Eddie, I have to agree SOME of todays bands are rubbish. You are comparing apples to oranges when you talk of the Beatles and todays music. It was not my intention to compare the Beatles with todays bands. But we are not talking of a band of today, we are talking of a band from 40 years ago. I still stand by what I said in an earlier post. Just out of curiosity, what band of the 60's rates as good in your book? Perry Como was not a band. Deb

like I said I rest my case Paul

Eddie, other people are entitled to their own opinions and are not going to be convinced to change their minds just because you keep repeating yourself. By the way, I thought they were great then and I still do now. Christina :-)

To Paul (Tigger) I am not trying to course trouble, I am just trying to get home to people that the Beatles were 'NOT A BAND' they were four young lads with no talent at all, who could hardly play two cords on their guitar. And could only scream 'She loves Yeh ' Yeh Yeh Yeh ' How bad can that be ?? Not to mention, 'We All Live In A Yella Submarine ' You must agree it was utter rubbish !

eddie perry coma lol you are showing your age. do us a favour . and as they say in liverpool 'just do one'

I took part in a quiz on Friday...something about songs with boy's name...I answered 'Hey Jude' and received two emails form Eddie about how wrong I was ...how the Beatles were crap and finally so was John Lennon's son....I have replied to him ...taking part in a quiz doesn't warrant this...he doesn't know my opinion either for or against the Beatles...there are more important things in life.....