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ஐ+*¨^¨*+e+*¨^¨*+ஐ Mildred Honkinbottom

ஐ+*¨^¨*+e+*¨^¨*+ஐ Mildred Honkinbottom Report 9 Apr 2006 09:40

For those wanting William or Harry to be king instead Please remember They appear to be down to earth etc...but are they ? They have lived and still do, a privileged life. They have little idea of how Joe public lives, they never truly will. What we see as extravagant, they see as normal. Yes they are having fun and being 'Lads' to the best of their ability. Make one of them king and protocol takes over. They do as advised, just as the queen does, and Charles does (even now) Everyone loved Charles before he married Di. People forget he like his sons he was young and free.. I dont think he wanted to get married in the first place to anyone. Protocol the queen and Joe public wanted Charles to get married. The rush began to find a bride, and along came Di. She ticked all the right boxes and the rest is history. It was protocol which bound them together for so long, If he'd been allowed to divorce earlier I believe he would have. The marriage wouldn't have continued in such a bitter way for so long (anger destroys everything and lots are said in anger) and Diana may still have been alive today (maybe she wouldn't either ) They may have ended their relationship more amicably (as Andy and Fergie did) And maybe the world wouldn't be so against Charles either.

Guinevere

Guinevere Report 9 Apr 2006 08:56

Hi, It's pretty clear from what I said on another thread that I am no Royalist but, as the constitution stands, Charles will be king and Camilla queen, if she so chooses. I think Charles is a bit dim, frankly, but amiable enough. Like the rest of his family he can have no concept of what life is like for real people who have to run their own baths. He speaks out against pollution etc but has his own gas guzzling car shipped out when he travels abroad, yet cannot see the hypocrisy in that. I think he'll be an OK king. I quite like Camilla who seems to behave naturally when dealing with people. I certainly prefer her to Diana who had so many 'issues' it was easy to see why the marriage didn't last. I cannot understand her parents encouraging her to marry a fuddy duddy so much older than herself, other than a desire to see their decendents as Kings. And maybe one of them should have mentioned the bulimia. If we had a choice I'd have Anne as the next monarch. Gwynne

Little Lost

Little Lost Report 9 Apr 2006 06:32

The programme recently about Charles and Camilla's long relationship ( I know it was only a dramatisation) but that gave the impression that he didnt marry Camilla before as she was not a virgin. Surely she does not have to be examined before he can marry her? Was Diana examined? Not saying that she was not a virgin but in this day and age is that so important?

Little Lost

Little Lost Report 9 Apr 2006 06:30

England survived the Edwardian times with Edward and the Victorian time with Victoria but I feel with Charles we are all going to be right old Charlies!!!!!!!! Joke

ellnic

ellnic Report 9 Apr 2006 04:10

I am sure none of us would like out 'Behind closed doors' conversations splashed all over the papers for the world to see. He who lives in glass houses and all that................ As for being king, YES. Give the poor bugga a go. Jean

bridan

bridan Report 9 Apr 2006 01:17

Yes Ginny, we have all heard that one, nevertheless that kind of deviousness does not sit well on the shoulders of a future King! However, I think they are well matched as Camilla was just as two-faced with Diana. Bridget x

Ginny

Ginny Report 9 Apr 2006 00:40

But it was a well used expression in Royal circles the APB laid down his wife for his King and he is said to have enjoyed the cudos

bridan

bridan Report 9 Apr 2006 00:38

I think Charles is a weak man and not fit to be King. As Godfather to one of Camilla's children he visited the home of a fellow officer (A.P.B. ) in the guise of a 'friend' and we all know what a friend he turned out to be!! I read he even arranged for A.P.B. to be posted for duty abroad leaving the way clear for him and his lady love. Bridget x

Luciacw

Luciacw Report 9 Apr 2006 00:27

I don't like what Charles and Camilla did.

Felicity

Felicity Report 8 Apr 2006 23:35

A valid viewpoint Marie. I suppose it only remains to be seen if his credibility is intact enough when it becomes time for him to take the throne. One way or another, this will be a topic of conversation in the future, either in relation to Charles or one of his descendants. Is he fit to be king? discussions have happened time and time again throughout history and have the makings of being a topic for generations to come - until the next revolution and beyond. :-)

Unknown

Unknown Report 8 Apr 2006 23:31

I know that it is possible to remarry in the eyes of the church. I have never once disputed that. My point remains that as the future head of the church of England, I believe that Charles through his actions has lost credibility and I think that that is ONE of the reasons why he is an unsuitable King. There are many other reasons, that I have stated throughout this thread. I STILL believe that if you can make worthless vows before God once you can do it again. I would not trust any coronation promise he may make on that basis

Felicity

Felicity Report 8 Apr 2006 23:20

As soon as Diana died, Charles became a widower and his divorce was irrelevant so far as the church is concerned. The reason why those who are divorced cannot marry in the church is because they have a spouse still living. If your spouse is dead there is no impediment to remarriage. Unless of course, the rules are different for Charles.

Janet in Yorkshire

Janet in Yorkshire Report 8 Apr 2006 23:14

IF Camilla was a Roman Catholic,THEN Charles would have had a problem, but that would have been a constitutional problem, rather than a religious one. She is a protestant, who married a Roman Catholic, and in keeping with his religion, she agreed to her two children being brought up in the Catholic faith. Marie - you can't have it both ways. If the C of E have changed their ruling about divorce, however recently and for whatever reasons, then this needs to apply to everyone, not everyone APART from Charles and Camilla. I admired them for having a civil ceremony, followed by a church blessing, along with a high percentage of the rest of the population. Why should they be pilloried for this? Out of the two couples, who both divorced, the one who remarried first was Andrew Parker-Bowles, less than a year after his divorce from Camilla - I have heard no one casting stones at him. jay

Unknown

Unknown Report 8 Apr 2006 23:00

As he was born to it , he knows the score better than anyone !!!!!!! Likewise. It's been an interesting debate. Thanks all xx

Saints Alive

Saints Alive Report 8 Apr 2006 23:00

Thanks Marie I am :-))))))))))))))))))) hic , excuse me

Granny

Granny Report 8 Apr 2006 23:00

Considering Charles is a divorcee, then he should not become King. William should be next on the Throne. Plus he married a divorcee. As for Charles himself, he is human.

Unknown

Unknown Report 8 Apr 2006 22:58

Saints alive This was always a Charles post, never just monarchy enjoy your carling xx

Unknown

Unknown Report 8 Apr 2006 22:57

Felicity He can marry who he pleases in theory , but,. given the circumstances though, and for the future of the monarchy, I believe he should give up all rights to the throne as a result of his behaviour as it has seriously affected his credibility as a future King.

Felicity

Felicity Report 8 Apr 2006 22:56

Surely Marie, a man aspires to be president and is born to be king? Presidents set themselves up and volunteer for the position and future kings are simply born into the family, like it or lump it. Apparently the Queen's father was horrified when his brother abdicated and dreaded the position thrust upon him. Anyway, this is/has been a fascinating discussion. Thank you to everyone. :-)

Saints Alive

Saints Alive Report 8 Apr 2006 22:56

To me it seems like real life , couple gets married , have some kids , they lose interest in each other , he puts it about , and so do'es she , problem is Diana is the peoples bird so Charles gets it in the neck as for the boys Marie says they were blighted by C&M methinks not the boys are doing well and show there strength by there antics in the real world . So is this post abour Royalty or just an anti Charles post ?? Carling Black Label waiting so gotta go hic :-))))))))))))