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Out of curiosity, I looked them up on the ER but strangely in 2007/8 they lived in London and then dont appear after that! I wonder why?

Florence in the hebrides

The daily mail today has this article

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10084501/Tfl-boss-stepping-role-end-october

It names one of the protesters as a retired Vicar who despite his criminal activities has been allowed to carry on his duties as an ordained minister!!

Florence in the hebrides

Florence

In England you can tick the box so that your details are not shown on the publicly available E R version.

I don't think they have enough to fill their lives at the moment.

Weird, innit, when most of them could help people feel better by being employed in some of the many job vacancies we currently have - and help people here and now AND/OR dig deep and go for roles where they would be able to make an improvement to people's lives currently and in the future.

They just ain't looking ahead without blinkers, is my opinion.

'Insulate Britain’s use of civil disobedience to fight the climate catastrophe was a catastrophe in itself. Search for the pressure group on YouTube and you see clips of delighted rightwing journalists taking apart its leaders. Sympathisers will say that a right wing that has barely recovered from its climate change denial was always going to lay into the activists. But Insulate Britain did not have to make life so easy for its foes.

The physical courage of demonstrators who walked into the speeding traffic on motorways counted for no more than the urgency of their cause. They targeted ordinary people, who were just trying to get to work or take their sick relatives to hospital, rather than fossil fuel companies and the finance industry that supports them. Their tactical stupidity left them wide open to attack.

Their failure ought to teach us that civil disobedience is not as easy as Prof Erica Chenworth’s “3.5% rule” once made it sound. The rule held that no government could withstand a determined challenge from a tiny minority. As military regimes from Belarus to Burma have shown, dictatorships can withstand challenges from considerably more than 3.5% of the population by setting the army on them. In democracies, leaders of direct action movements cannot just mobilise a required percentage of the population. They have to be smarter than the mainstream politicians they are challenging. They have to use street theatre, argument, wit and controlled anger to convince the watching electorate to rethink its assumptions. Extinction Rebellion was creative and more popular than many Conservatives realised.

Insulate Britain, by contrast, put forward a spokesman, who stormed off a TV show after its hosts accused him of being a hypocrite. (He was demanding the insulation of homes but had failed to insulate his own.) The protest was over and the campaign accepted its inevitable defeat on Friday.'

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/16/insulate-britain-might-be-floundering-but-eco-extremism-is-here-to-stay :-|

So do you have an opinion of your own on the demonstrations?

Is there really any point in protesting, have any of them won outright and managed to actually stop something from happening or going on, the M4? The Greenham Common? For instance.

What I dont understand is this. Over the last 5 years, the government were giving away free loft and outside wall insulation .This island has been saturated with firms giving it away for free and there is hardly a house here that isnt insulated.
The grants were particularly aimed at older houses that had no insulation.

I am sure this was a national grant scheme and not just in Scotland

All the new builds including this house which was only built in April this year are very eco friendly. Underfloor heating, no radiators and very well insulated and much cheaper to heat as my first quarterly electricity bill shows.

So why are they protesting about something that is actually being addressed or has already been addressed?

The law is far too soft when it comes to demonstrators. Im sure in any other country, they would not have stood for the amount of disruption that these idiot protestors caused.

Florence in the hebrides