General Chat

There is some logic to that plan Bob.

I didn't want to start yet another post on this subject...
So.............its a straight C&p from another website...some of you MAY have seen it elsewhere....

Please be advised that this is not a political post whatsoever. Any political comments, then they will be deleted, the postee muted and comments turned off.

Many of you would have seen the recent press conference regarding the Coronavirus given by the Prime Minister along with the Government's Chief Medical and Science Officers earlier on this evening. They gave the Government assessment on as to where this country is in relation to the spread of this disease at this moment in time and they gave recommendations on what is going to happen next with regards to what the people of this country are to to do going forward.

If any are in doubt as to the Government Policy and as to why they are doing things the way their doing things then this might explain in simple terms what the Government policy means. I hope you find it of some use.

The plan is to segregate all vulnerable people (older, ill, disabled and at risk) let’s call this group A

Anyone looking after the older, ill and at risk can be group B

The general population / generally healthy can be group C

Group C needs to go about it’s business keeping the country moving, kids at school, us at work

Group B looks after group A and avoids contact with C

Group C is allowed to contract the virus and because it’s generally healthy it can cope with it better than group A

Group A and B are almost self isolating without the virus to avoid putting strain on the NHS and reducing the risk of getting the virus and then needing the NHS

Group C (the generally healthy) go through the cycle of contracting the virus self isolating and being looked after by healthy family members, friends and the local community

Anyone who has complications gets looked after by the NHS while groups A and B are kept away The NHS are not strained by A and B while its looking after complicated cases in C

As group C comes full circle and recovers it divides in to groups that take group B’s position looking after group A allowing group B to go though the cycle

With B and C though the cycle, A is free to have NHS to itself because B and C are now clear from illness and infection and hopefully have a degree of immunity from getting it again this season.

Hope this helps those that are worried or not sure of the plan

Everyone has a job to do for the above to work and we must all be resolute and understanding if we, as a Nation are to get through this.

BC declared a Public health Emergency yesterday, allowing the Public Health Officer to issue orders by voice, and without requiring permission from the Cabinet or House.

A Provincial State of Emergency has just been announced.

There will be a brief Legislature meeting on Monday, with reduced number of members, on Monday to pass necessary laws.

Vancouver has declared a City State of Emergency ..... which can be used to curb over-buying in stores and pharmacies.

The PM gave a long update this morning on financial changes that are being made to help people and businesses over the next weeks and months.

He also announced that a joint decision by Canada and the US has closed the border, except for supply trade, and for people who need to cross (eg, people who live on one side but work on the other.

Caroline, I read that one of our supermarkets is limiting the first half-hour of their opening time to over-70s. (They'll have to be fleet of foot or use a tick-list if they have memory difficulties cos half-an-hour ain't long for the slow-moving.)

Our 24-hour stores have begun to close overnight so their shelves can be stocked too. I like that because the older generation will get first dibs. I hope some members of staff are assigned to help those with walking problems.

Yes sorry about that Sylvia I haven't been up on the news for the whole country for a few days there have been more deaths than I knew about.

Our main drug store is somehow going to allow only seniors and people with special needs etc to attend the first hour of every day...not sure how that will work for my local one which is 24hrs, but a good idea anyway.

well, our schools are on Spring Break right now.

Lots of parents have gone away with their kids, now scrambling to get back to Canada as not only have their holiday places shut down or are shutting down, but getting here from there (wherever "there" is) is becoming more and more difficult.

My daughter is on a plane tomorrow from Florida back to Nova Scotia, at least that is what we believe.

If any intending passengers on a Canadian airline have a cough or a sniffle, the Canadian government announced yesterday that the airline is mandated to refuse to board them. They're booked on Air Canada.

I phoned the dr's yesterday to make an appointment as I'm down to my last few days of meds. The receptionist told me not to go into the waiting room but to phone them from the cat park (actually I'll be walking over there as it is so close). The dr would then phone me when she was available, and I could then go in :-S

I'm supposed to go to a funeral today, but I heard on the local news last night that the Funeral Directors are now saying that no more than fifty people should attend any funeral. I know that there will be more than that at this one, but I've also noticed that this particular funeral is to be webcast on the FD website. I think that that may be the way to go.

Also been announced that Bunnings have cancelled all sausage sizzles, and that WA Police will no longer be operating 'booze' buses, nor conducting static RBTs

Interesting times we are living in :-D

Our schools are still open but I did hear that more than one head is short of teachers who are staying at home with a child with a temperature.

I do believe that Boris is using the children as guinea pigs to test out this herd-immunity theory?

I wonder whether he or anyone in Parliament are keeping their own children off school?

Caroline ...... that would be the 5th death in Canada. We've had 4 in BC, 3 were over this weekend, all connected with the same care home in North Vancouver.

I've just been listening to an announcement from our Premier and a couple of his MInisters.

They haven't declared a state of emergency yet.

All schools closed indefinitely, universities and colleges not mentioned but most have already closed classes on campus and moved to online teaching.

Finance Minister disclosed outlines for support for businesses

Apart from that .............. the largest department store in Canada, Hudson's Bay, announced about an hour ago that all stores will be closed for the next 2 weeks, effective immediately. Sales associates will be paid for scheduled shifts.

The city has already closed most city-run buildings, including community centres, pools, and libraries.

One of my friends with mobility problems is busy buying books online .... like me she doesn't like ebooks. I'll be ordering books later today.

Social distancing and self-isolation, plus frequent hand-washing, are still the order of the day.

In Ontario this morning they've declared a state of emergency, so they can force places to close so no restaurants except takeout/delivery, no movies, no bars etc. Shops to close except grocery/drug stores.
We might have had our first death in Ontario not confirmed yet so I think that's the second for Canada.
We're talking known affected people in the hundreds not thousands still, they're hoping to slow it down earlier than some countries, trying to learn from their "mistakes". Who knows what the future holds.
Looking at data it seems it's less likely to be breathed in if you're just walking outside as long as no one coughs on you, inside it takes longer to settle. So long dog walks are the rule right now no matter the weather...most people are respecting the social distancing dog walkers yelling hi from across the street to each other. :-)

My oh can't have two blood test Renal Hypertension untill further notice just rang GP he has meds. Are they hoping one way or another to finish us of before peak of the virus just wondering .no appointments avaliable unless urgent .Pharmacy putting prescriptions through the letter box .oh well keep smilling :-D :-D Barbara

we've had several wills over the years.

The first one was about 45 years ago, when we left our daughter to her aunt, OH's sister :-D

Someone asked "what would happen to your daughter if you both died?". Good question.

We living in Canada. My parents both dead. OH's parents elderly and in England. My brother and wife also in England. OH's sister married and living in Canada was the only real option, although hundreds of kilometres away..

But to make sure that she did get legal care of daughter AND be able to access our money and funding, just naming them as guardians wasn't enough at that time. We had to "will" our daughter to them as if she was an object. That allowed them to access, for example, at least one of our bank accounts to get money to physically move her to their house immediately and fund necessary major costs until the will went through probate.

That will was filed somewhere, or so we were told, but we lost our copy some how. Still it remained in effect until almost 20 years later.

We then made at least 2 more, and then finally one in 2016 after a dying friend made us promise to update the existing one because of some problems we had been having with a relative, so that we could be certain that our wishes were carried out.

It's time to re-visit that will in view of some things that have happened in the last couple of years.

We made ours years ago, Dermot :-)

We thought that we might be tempting fate, and one day we will be proved right ;-)

Who, apart from myself, hasn't yet made a Will? :-(

Just been to hospital with my brother for his 8th chemo session 2 more to go, he is now almost self isolating in that he is not going out much. I managed to get him some hand sanitizers & Dettol surface wipes which he can use as wet wipes for his hands. Can't get them now, no luck asking at hospital. So thanks to all the idiots that are buying them all up. What is it with loo rolls, you do not get diarrhea with the virus. Spoke to another brother yesterday & he was in Tescos & police had to be called as they were limiting them but people were filling trolleys, when told by staff they were arguing back. Went in Sainsburys on way home & fruit & veg shelves almost empty. When I went to town on Sat. morning, I always go early anyway It was like xmas eve, people everywhere & lots of traffic in town. On a positive note glad people are pulling together to help elderly people near them, I have given my phone no to 2 sets of neighbours if they need help. Staff said at hospital they are pinching their bottles of hand sanitizers off the chemo ward, for god's sake this is a room full of people with cancer & people going with them, I despair of some people. Rant over, stay safe everyone. <3

Well, I don't have to dress up tonight :-0

Grand Lodge of WA, following the decision made by the Grand Lodge of Victoria, has cancelled all masonic meetings/activities, effective immediately, until further notice.

Given the age of may of the members, probably a wise decision.

However, we certainly don't come under the Feds 500 number for meetings; we sometimes struggle to even have a meeting at all :-D

That's awful, Emma.

There's also the question of the amount of germs etc spread by hand blowers.
The last place I worked had Dyson Airblade hand dryers.
Dyson say they're very efficient, but studies show they can spread 1,300 times more germs than paper towels.
Dyson denies this, but microbiologists who undertook the study in 2016 said:

" if someone doesn't wash their hands properly, then used the dryers, If hands are not washed properly and carry pathogens then the question is what happens when they are dried?

“Viruses such as Norovirus have a very low infectious dose, fewer than 50 virus particles can give rise to a nasty infection. It is perfectly possible for hands to carry one million of these particles after using the toilet.”

My great granddaughter and her school friends are in pain
from washing their hands with the stuff provided by her school.

She has been given prescribed hand wash and cream to
calm the redness and has her own towel at school under Drs orders.

The redness has calmed down and bleeding stopped.

Boris is playing a dangerous game, saying a decision on closures will be made next weekend. He is playing with fire putting the economy before the health of the nation for the sake of one week. We will have to take the hit anyway some time very soon.

Some pupils have been sent home while others in the same class have remained in school; some schools have closed - and some pupils are still making the journey to and from school on overcrowded public transport - the very transport that many elderly, who no longer drive, use.

Some sporting fixtures have carried on while others have been cancelled. As one football manager put it - one crowded stadium against everyone's well-being, no contest, it's not worth the risk.

He is dithering and delaying - all of the bumbling characteristics for which he is known. I say bite the bullet, Boris, call it now instead of in a week or so. In a few years, when you are out of office, you will at least be able to say that your policies on Coronavirus saved a few lives - infinitely better than saying that they saved a few million pounds.

Trump is plain weird. It is thought by many that by banning European flights but allowing UK ones, he has displayed a certain amount of racism but he needs to make money from his golf courses say some.

Interesting times to watch leaders.

Pat
....really? How awful that an Archbishop would be giving advice like that.

In our parish, services are allowed, but no communion wine, no hand shakes and sharing of the peace and no after-service coffee.

At our GP surgery yesterday, I had to attend for routine yearly review and blood test.
The main door was locked. We had to go round the back, where a receptionist was sitting outside and asking each patient if they had a cough / cold fever or sore throat. She circled the appropriate response on an A 4 printed paper and if we passed this screening, we applied hand sanitizer and were allowed into the surgery waiting room, where the chairs had been rearranged to have wide spaces between each person.