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TUESDAY LtN< DECREES NISI GRANTED
. Ernest William Kent, of Wood-street. Grimsby, against Lydia Kent.

08 November 1938 - Lincolnshire Echo - Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England .

Just ordered Birth certificate at least the trail is now warm again :-) will keep you all posted

Once again you are all amazing thank you for all your help <3

Picking up from Detective

Marriage at Scunthorpe Lincs - right era and area

First name(s) IRENE
Last name WILSON
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1964


IRENE WILSON married one of these people - Anthony D Allen

Yes, it should be.

To set the cat amongst the pigeons, Freebmd actually gives an additional surname. Has this already been explored or is it a coincidence?

Births Dec 1937 (>99%)
Kent Irene Mason 7a 819a
Mason Irene Mason 7a 819a
Wilson Irene Mason 7a 819

It would probably be best to order one of the 819a

quick question is 7a 819a and 7a 819 the same birth certificate?

Les had mentioned Peters death however that was Lydias brother not son. Les was quiet clear he had a half brother Lydia being the Mother.

Lydia seemed to be good at giving kids away

All details of Lydia are correct I have traced her parents and grandparents


Daughter born in 1936 to Lydia was Actualy Daughter to James my paternal Grandfather Lydia gave her over to him and his spouse. Lydia was married to Kent at the Time

I think my search for Philip and Irene is coming to a close sadly cant think of where else to source information.



Thank you all so much for your help brilliant group


:-) :-) :-)

lol Island, or as someone once said of me "like a terrier shaking a rat" ;-)

Same here Rose 'like a dog trying to bury a bone in lino' LOL

lol Island, that's one word for it, 'stubborn' might be another :-D.
I do hate to give up and admit defeat !

Rose, you should change 'Temerity' to 'Tenacity' :-D

Albert Frederick married 1944,


First name(s) ALBERT F
Last name MASON
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1944
Registration month -
MarriageFinder ™

ALBERT F MASON married one of these people

Annie Cornhill


First name(s) Albert Fredk
Last name Mason
Event year 1921
Birth year 1906
Birth place Grimsby
Birth county/country Lincolnshire
Birth date ? ? 1906
Discharge number 1113923
Card type CR2
Archive
The National Archives
Series BT348
Date range 1921-1941
Piece number 1
Record set Britain, Merchant Seamen, 1918-1941

Parents in 1939, no children with them

93 Stirling Street, Grimsby C.B., Lincolnshire (Parts of Lindsey), England

Albert E Mason 27 Nov 1875 Male Club Steward Married 42 1
Cecilia Mason 12 Mar 1882 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 42 2

Philip appears to have died young

Philip Robert
Last name Mason
Age 26
Birth year 1910
Death year 1936
Death date 19 Oct 1936
Burial year 1936
Burial date 22 Oct 1936
Place Grimsby
Church Scartho Road Cemetery
Residence 93 Stirling St

( EDIT not this marriage** it's a diifferent Philip The above death is correct . **Married in 1931, and poss child born 1932. )

For ref this appears to be Lydia's baptism,
First name(s) Lydia
Last name Mason
Sex Female
Birth year 1908
Birth date 25 Jul 1908
Baptism year 1908
Baptism date 14 Aug 1908
Church St John
Place New Clee St John
Father's first name(s) Albert Frederick
Mother's first name(s) Cecilia
County Lincolnshire
Country England
Archive
Lincolnshire Archives
Page 191
Marriage of parents

HAYNES Cecilia Grimsby 7a 1689
MASON Albert Edward Grimsby 7a 1689

Brother MASON, ALBERT FREDERICK HAYNES
GRO Reference: 1906 J Quarter in GRIMSBY Volume 07A Page 654

And birth of another brother named Philip so maybe that is where the name comes in?? MASON, PHILIP ROBERT mmn HAYNES
GRO Reference: 1910 J Quarter in GRIMSBY Volume 07A Page 647

MASON, ERNEST HAYNES
GRO Reference: 1912 D Quarter in GRIMSBY Volume 07A Page 1108

Lydia parent and brother Albert are on the 1930 eroll in Grimsby Stirling high street Grimsby

EDIT sorry about repeat post GR is playing up

For ref this appears to be Lydia's baptism, First name(s) Lydia
Last name Mason
Sex Female
Birth year 1908
Birth date 25 Jul 1908 <<< matches with 1939 reg
Baptism year 1908
Baptism date 14 Aug 1908
Church St John
Place New Clee St John
Father's first name(s) Albert Frederick
Mother's first name(s) Cecilia
County Lincolnshire
Country England
Archive
Lincolnshire Archives
Page 191
Record set Lincolnshire Baptisms


If that's the case, Lydia is listed with parents and an Albert Edward Mason on the eroll for 1930 in Stirling high street Grimsby

There doesn't appear to be a birth for a Philip with mother's maiden name of Mason in a likely place or with any of the known surnames.

This is certainly a conundrum Simon :-) It looks to me that your mother may have lived with her father (?) and wife or at least was with them for the civil registration in 1939. Similarly, could Irene have been taken in by her own father? Otherwise, I think she may have been adopted out.
It is interesting that all three girls are on the birth reg as Mason and Kent and a third name for the 1936 child. I hope that makes sense. The mother must have made many trips to the register office.

edit I don't want to post your mothers name for your own privacy.

OP in this context means opening poster - the person who started the thread.
When someone starts a thread ((asks the initial question etc) that is the opening post.

Rambling realised that the daughter born in 1936 was your mother. She didn’t give details of the births in case they were still living. This was to to protect both your & their privacy.

Irene just seems to vanish Les Morris son of Arthur Morris wasn't aware of irene at all she would have been 9 when Lydia re married in 1942.

Les informed me in 2012 that Lydia also had a son called Philip cant find anything on him what so ever

Not been able to contact Les again he may have passed on now

Not good at this what does realised OP 's mean

for ref

Marriages Mar 1931 (>99%)

Kent Ernest W Mason Grimsby 7a 1013
Mason Lydia Kent Grimsby 7a 1013

There are kent/Mason children bn Grimsby 1932 ( died same year sadly) 1936 and Irene in 1937.

edited as realised OP 's mother was the daughter born 1936.