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Barry

Barry Report 26 Jan 2019 16:51

My girlfriend who also has the same surname as me lol is interested in looking for family over here. She said her grandfather was from either England or Scotland but couldn't vibe sure which. What would be the best way of searching?.

Many Thanks.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 26 Jan 2019 17:03

If you could give his full name and approximate year of birth I'm sure someone will be only too glad to take a look and see if we can find anything.

If she has her grandmother's name as well that would help unless she already has their marriage.

Kath. x

Barry

Barry Report 12 Apr 2019 02:14

My girlfriends grandfather was Victor James Tanner bc 1905. His wife Edith Fyvie bc 1904 and she died in July 1947. Victors mum was born or married in Battersea her name was Elizabeth Kendall, BC Aug 29th 1871.

I have info on the ship that they were passengers on that went to America and the date and destination. If you need any more info just ask. Im sure i can get a bit more info. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Barry

Barry Report 12 Apr 2019 02:16

Her Great Grandfather was Sidney Hillier/Hellier Tanner bc 1867 and died 1923

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Apr 2019 04:12

Marriage of great grandparents, from Freebmd .....

Marriages Dec 1891 (>99%)

Kendall Elizabeth Maria Brentford 3a 137
Tanner Sidney Hillier Brentford 3a 137


Birth registration of grandfather, from GRO Index (which shows mmn)

TANNER, VICTOR JAMES mmn KENDALL
GRO Reference: 1905 D Quarter in ROCHFORD Volume 04A Page 695

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 12 Apr 2019 04:17

From freebmd site

Births Jun 1868
TANNER Sidney Hillier ... Wandsworth 1d 538

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Apr 2019 04:24

There are several Tanner Family Tree on ancestry, if you have access.

from ancestry ...

London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932

Name: Sidney Hillier Tanner
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 23
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1868
Marriage Date: 13 Dec 1891
Marriage Place: St Mary, Ealing, Ealing, England
Father: James Tanner
Spouse: Elizabeth Maria Rendall
Register Type: Parish Register

from image:-
Sidney
Bachelor
Occupation:- Stone Mason
Address:- 53 Grangeby Road, Ealing
Father's occupation:- Stone Mason

Elizabeth
Spinster
Age 20
no occupation shown
Same address as above
Father occupation:- Foreman, Chemical works (deceased)

Witnesses:- R.L.Rideout and Ellen Butcher

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Apr 2019 04:27

Birth registration for great grandfather, from GRO Index

TANNER, SIDNEY HILLIER mmn MEADOWS
GRO Reference: 1868 J Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 538

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Apr 2019 04:42

Here's Sidney in 1891 with his parents and siblings, from Ancestry

1891 Census

Name: Sidney Tanner
Gender: Male
Age: 22
Relationship: Son
Birth Year: 1869
Father: James Tanner
Mother: Susan Tanner
Birth Place: Battersea
Civil Parish: Battersea
Residence Place: Battersea, London, England
Sub registration district: West Battersea
ED, Institution or Vessel: 23
Neighbors:
Piece: 433
Folio: 43

James Tanner 56 b.ca 1835, Cullen, Wiltshire, Stone Mason
Susan Tanner 56 b.ca 1835, Northampton
Helena Tanner 25 b.ca 1866, Battersea, Invoice Clerk
Sidney Tanner 22 Stone Mason
Minnie Tanner 20 b.ca 1871, Battersea, Glove Maker
Charles Champion 19 b.ca 1872, Battersea, Nephew, Joiner

Address:- 2 Kerrison Rd

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Apr 2019 04:46

Marriage of James and Susan(nah), from Freebmd .............

Marriages Jun 1859 (>99%)

Meadows Susannah Chelsea 1a 288
Tanner James Chelsea 1a 288

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Apr 2019 04:54

Marriage of James and Susannah, from ancestry ,,,,,


London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932

Name: James Tanner
Gender: Male
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 13 Jun 1859
Marriage Place: St Luke, Chelsea, Kensington and Chelsea, England
Father: Charles Tanner
Spouse: Susannah Meadows
Register Type: Parish Register

from image:-

James
of Full Age
Bachelor
Occupation:- Stone Mason
Address:- St Luke
Father occupation:- Carpenter

Susannah
of Full Age
Spinster
no occupation shown
Address:- St Luke
Father occupation:- Independent

Witnesses:- J (?I or T) Hibberth (??) and Margaret (unreadable)

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 12 Apr 2019 04:56

so now you have a lead ....................

ancestry or FindMyPast (FMP) for censuses, parish records etc
Freebmd and GRO Index

Hope you can now find all that you want.

Barry

Barry Report 12 Apr 2019 11:49

Thank you for all your help ??

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 12 Apr 2019 12:12

Were you specifically looking for living descendants who remained in England?
Use the Search all member trees, top right under Search.
Send a message to anyone who lists the same names as mentioned on this thread.

It would help us to help you if you can give the names of all who went to the US. That way we can ignore them & look for other people’s B,M & Ds.

Precise details of relatives who may still be living would be sent to you by personal message.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 12 Apr 2019 12:42

Is this Victor travelling to the US?

Victor Tanner
Gender: Male
Age: 4
Nationality: English
Birth Date: abt 1906
Birth Place: London, England
Departure Place: Liverpool, England
Arrival Date: 16 Jun 1910
Arrival Place: Boston, Massachusetts, USA
Last Residence: England
Friend: Sidney Tanner
Ship: Saxonia

Other Tanner passengers
Elizabeth 58 - that's what the image says!
Lilly 13
Elsie 9
Bertie 7
Minnie 2

Next of kin in the UK, Elizabeth's mother 12 St Ann's Road, Southend on Sea (Essex)
Party travelling to Willoughby, Ohio

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 12 Apr 2019 12:51

Checking point from GRO-

TANNER, LILY ELIZABETH mmn KENDALL
GRO Reference: 1896 S Quarter in HACKNEY Volume 01B Page 43

TANNER, ELSIE BEATRICE KENDALL
GRO Reference: 1901 J Quarter in WANDSWORTH Volume 01D Page 780

TANNER, ALBERT JOHN KENDALL
GRO Reference: 1903 D Quarter in ROCHFORD Volume 04A Page 720

Victor you already have

TANNER, MINNIE HELEN KENDALL
GRO Reference: 1908 M Quarter in ROCHFORD Volume 04A Page 761

Rochford was incorporated Southend-on-sea into the registration district in 1913, out of the parishes of Prittlewell, Leigh, Southchurch, and Eastwood.
...
Assuming you agree with the above, we do, as Sylvia implied, need to take the research one generation back then forward to the present day.

Were you hoping to work out if your family & your friend's family were related? Do bear in mind that Tanner is an occupational name & not unique.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 12 Apr 2019 12:53

The 1920 US census lists Victor as son-in-law of Richard & Florence Hulbert. his wife Mary Ann being their daughter. Also with the same family is Arthur Fluvie listed as brother-in-law to Richard. Didn't you say that Victor's wife was Edith Fyvie?

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 12 Apr 2019 13:04

This has me confused:


Victor J Tanner
in the Ohio, County Marriage Records, 1774-1993
Ohio, County Marriage Records, 1774-1993 No Image
Text-only collection
Name:
Victor J Tanner
Gender:
Male
Age:
20
Birth Date:
abt 1904
Marriage Date:
25 Oct 1924
Marriage Place:
Lawrence, Ohio, USA
Father:
Sam Tanner
Mother:
Elizabeth Randall
Spouse:
Edith Ramey Hulbert
Film Number:
001574148

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 12 Apr 2019 14:32

Sidney Hillier Tanner in 1871 -

St John Hill Marble Works, St Mary Battersea, Wandsworth, London & Surrey, England
James Tanner Head - Male 36 1835 - Wiltshire, England
Susanna Tanner Wife - Female 36 1835 - Northamptonshire, England
Helena F Tanner Daughter - Female 6 1865 - Surrey, England
Sidney H Tanner Son - Male 2 1869 - Surrey, England
Minnie M A Tanner Daughter - Female 0 1871 - Surrey, England
Mary Ann Tanner Mother-In-Law - Female 66 1805 - Gloucestershire, England

1881
4, Falcon Lane, Battersea, Wandsworth, London & Surrey, England
James Tanner Head Married Male 45 1836 Stone & Marble Mason Colerne, Wiltshire, England
Susanna Tanner Wife Married Female 45 1836 - Northampton, Northamptonshire, England
Helena Fanny Tanner Daughter Single Female 16 1865 - Battersea, Surrey, England
Sidney Hillier Tanner Son Single Male 12 1869 - Battersea, Surrey, England
Minnie Maud Alice Tanner Daughter Single Female 10 1871 - Battersea, Surrey, England
.......
Minnie Maud Alice Tanner seems to have died as a spinster.
Probate
Name: Minnie Maud Alice Tanner
Death Date: 16 Mar 1941
Death Place: Kent, England (Lived in!)
Probate Date: 16 Jun 1947
Probate Registry: London, England

Of 27 Central Parade Herne Bay Kent spinster died 16 Mar 1941 at The Hollies Woodlands, Coombe Martin, Devon. Limited Administration to Alfred Harvey Doncaster retired schoolmaster attorney of Lillian Elizabeth Wagner (wife of Raymond Earl Wagner) £825 13s 6d

Death

Minnie M A Tanner
Death Age: 70
Birth Date: abt 1871
Registration Date: Mar 1941
Registration district: Barnstaple
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 1345

Baptism
Minnie Maud Alice Tanner
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 3 Jun 1886
Baptism Place: Battersea Rise St Mark, Wandsworth, England
Father: James Tanner
Mother: Susan Tanner
Born 1 May 1870.
Address in 1886, 148 Falcon Rd

Still living with her parents in 1901

329, Earlsfield Road, Wandsworth, London & Surrey, England
James Tanner Head Married Male 65 1836 Master Builder Colne, Wiltshire, England
Susanna Tanner Wife Married Female 65 1836 - Northamptonshire, England
Minnie Tanner Daughter Single Female 30 1871 Assistant Glove Works Battersea, Middlesex, England

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 12 Apr 2019 14:38

Helen Fanny Tanner's marriage???

Helena Fanny Tanner
Registration Year: 1897
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Wandsworth
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 1039
Records on Page:
Name
William Henry Boyce
Helena Fanny Tanner
Emma Eliza Townsend
Charles John Wright

Helena Fanny Tanner
Gender: Female
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 18 Sep 1897
Marriage Place: Christ Church, Battersea, Wandsworth, England
Father: James Tanner
Spouse: Charles John Wright
Register Type: Parish Register
......

Helena & Minnie on the 1939 Register

Name: Helena F Wright
[Helena Fanny Wright]
[Helena Fanny Tanner]
Gender: Female
Marital status: Widow
Birth Date: 12 May 1865
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 182 Mortimer Street
Residence Place: Herne Bay, Kent, England
Occupation: Accounts Clerk Retired
Schedule Number: 63
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: DHXM
Registration district: 59-1
Household Members:
Name
Minnie M A Tanner
Helena F Wright

Minnie M A Tanner
[Minnie Maud Alice Tanner]
Gender: Female
Marital status: Single
Birth Date: 1 May 1871
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 182 Mortimer Street
Residence Place: Herne Bay, Kent, England
Occupation: Drapery Assistant Retired
Schedule Number: 63
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: DHXM
Registration district: 59-1