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MargaretM

MargaretM Report 16 Dec 2015 19:17

Curiously there's been nothing on CBC news about this problem. I was just watching another report about the refugees there and no mention of the Armenian Church problem.

Caroline

Caroline Report 16 Dec 2015 19:26

Can't say why not. If ctv weren't being factual i think someone would have pointed it out by now.they've been running the story for over a week.
for those that don't know cbc is the national station ctv have local stations around the country.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 16 Dec 2015 19:30

I didn't say that CTV were not being factual just find it curious that our national network is not covering it.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 16 Dec 2015 19:33

we haven't heard one word of any such problem on this side ................

and we watch most of Global News National, Global BC 6 pm, and then CBC News Network after 7 pm.

There have been many reports from Toronto and other parts of the country on Global National, and on CBC News Network, if not so many on Global BC


Perhaps people just do not want to seem to be complaining about that group, especially as it is Armenian (100th anniversary and all that)

Caroline

Caroline Report 16 Dec 2015 21:10

Cbc.ca are covering this story just a different angle. No one will rent to them.

Rambling

Rambling Report 16 Dec 2015 21:22

"No one will rent to them." Why?

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 16 Dec 2015 21:42

well, there isn't much problem on this side, or anywhere else that I've heard.

Must just be Toronto ................... they often do strange things there :-D :-D


Close the airport with 2" of snow .............. been caught in that one :-D


Call in the army when 10" snow falls


Rob Ford


his brother Doug

Caroline

Caroline Report 16 Dec 2015 21:48

In Toronto they always have people ready to rent so they can be fussy !!they don't want to be stuck with no one paying the rent in one year it seems.

As for the army .....here we go again. ...yes we called them in but there was no where else to put the snow we'd had loads that winter. .....we're a rather large city with Millions trying to move around. ...and it wasn't the Ford brothers that time but Mel lastman
:-D

Caroline

Caroline Report 16 Dec 2015 21:49

And we can close an airport better than anyone else so don't be jealous :-)

Rambling

Rambling Report 16 Dec 2015 22:03

"In Toronto they always have people ready to rent so they can be fussy !!they don't want to be stuck with no one paying the rent in one year it seems. "

So much the same as any large city where property is in relatively short supply and landlords can pick and choose and pretty much charge what they like ( London as an example) however whether someone is likely to be able to pay the rent after a years tenancy is really not the point, and that could apply to anyone, whatever their occupation etc.

I would assume that Canada has similar tenancy agreements to the UK, ie if you don't pay the rent you get evicted?

I would also assume that there are other places outside of Toronto where prices are not as punchy?

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 16 Dec 2015 22:22

Vancouver is in exactly the same situation as Toronto .............. in fact, it's even worse.

The current rental vacancy rate is 0.5% or lower, depending on the area of the city.

In Toronto, the vacancy rate is about 1.8%


The rental cost is higher in Vancouver as well.


There are still people offering rooms, apartments, basement suites.

One developer has handed over 12 apartments in one building that will be available for about 3-4 months or until he gets permission for re-development.

............. these are all offers for the Government sponsored refugees.


There are no complaints that I have heard from the organizations who are privately sponsoring refugees.


I'm like Margee ......... I'm incredibly proud of Canadians


but it does sound as though our two respective places are different from Toronto


well, we did always know that :-D

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 16 Dec 2015 22:28

RR .........

Putting refugees outside the big cities is being done, but carries it's own problems


Services for refugees might not be as good .... eg, translator services, language and education skills classes, full trauma help

Getting to the big city to access such services is nowhere near as easy as in the UK, unless you have a car. These guys might be able to drive, but they have to pass the Canadian driving test, and afford a car and then run it. Or else their "hosts" will have to drive them around.

Outside the Toronto - Montreal - Ottawa corridor, there are few local trains. Bus service between communities is usually by long distance service, eg Greyhound.

There can even be problems in the Toronto area, if you happen to be in the wrong town.


So we do tend to find that immigrants, especially refugees, tend to congregate in the larger centres.

Kay????

Kay???? Report 16 Dec 2015 22:37

I hope you have your needles out and knitting a few tuques. as a welcome present. :-D

Caroline

Caroline Report 16 Dec 2015 23:03

Services are almost non existent out of big towns and over booked in big towns !! It's a no win.

Obviously the rest of Canada is always green with envy at Toronto as we leave you all in our shadow on everything. :-D for those not in the know this is normal behaviour everyone pretending to hate us but they love us really.

The refugees are getting free hats and coats etc now all we need is winter so they can wear them.

Even within toronto public transport isn't always the best just depends where you are on the line or the bus route. And very very packed.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 16 Dec 2015 23:13

EXCUSE ME!!! The rest of Canada green with envy at Toronto? You've got to be kidding? Are you in Toronto or on Mars?

Caroline

Caroline Report 16 Dec 2015 23:49

See that's the problem we're so amazing the rest of Canada think we're out of this world. :-D

Just had tonight's news on. It seems most of the people sponsoring in this case were seniors. When they provided proof of income they were told it's not enough. Whether that's true or not i don't know.again maybe they had good intentions but not the money to back it up who knows.

Caroline

Caroline Report 17 Dec 2015 00:22

RR
if you don't pay the rent you can be evicted but not before a long drawn out court case i believe. Also in at least Quebec not sure elsewhere you can't be evicted during winter for obvious reasons.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 17 Dec 2015 00:34

winter doesn't apply here :-)

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 17 Dec 2015 01:12

That's just a myth, that one can't be evicted in winter.

Caroline

Caroline Report 17 Dec 2015 02:39

Just researched it looks like you're right....bit heartless though isn't it...still takes forever if they refuse to move out.