General Chat

I don't think that any one thinks that the state through taxation should not help people in need after all we all at some point will need some sort of benefit/help

I have worked all my life and most of that was doing between 60 and 80 hours per week
when i have not been in work as at the moment ( have not worked for the last 11 months) I live on my savings and i would not say i am fortunate to have savings because i only have them through long hours and hard work and only spending what i NEED to spend

The fact is we are where we are and we have to deal with the debt problem the alternative is to go bankrupt as a country or pass this debt on to our grand children (do they deserve that)

Roy

It's not the contributions from those years that are paying now though TW unfortunatley. It's what's available now..Unfair?...hell yeah !!!

NO QUESTION you have paid your way and in fact are being UNDER paid for your contribution.

BUT whilst you have the WORK SHY sponging ..and they DO exist..sorry but they do..........you'll never get what you're entitled to cos the pot is only ever going to be so big...and with the unworthy taking a share they aren't entitled to it's never going to go where it SHOULD.

It stinks. I totally agree...but years and years and years of folk feeling they were entitled when they weren't have put us where we are now and it HAS to change x

Oh my word l agree with loads of you but certainly not a few of you!!

l find Cameron and his cronnies smarmy and basically all politicians not living in the real world.

l've not really looked at the Budget, l have the gist though, it won't do me any good other than get cross and sad and l can't do anything about it, its happened.
l have just received some leaflets re the NHS to post or put up, probably too late now:(

l have'nt voted for the past 2 yrs, which l find annoying and sad, but l don't believe in any of them. This budget is once again for the rich.
The new NHS reform is going to finish some people, its cruel.
l did send a few emails to a Lord in my area regarding the NHS, no replies at all, which l found to be very rude.

l will read more about the budget in the papers tomorrow.

nite nite


jude

I completely agree with you Rose on those points, its the same here.

Also another point that is wrong, is the fact that my daughter who is almost 21, works full time for £14,000 with no children. A friend who does exactly the same job for the same salary gets her wages topped up by approx £80 per week with working tax credits, purely because she is over 25 (also has no children. Where is the fairness in that.

I havent heard the budget yet, its just a point.

Hi Jude :-)

Hi Jacky :-)

I was talking to my son today and he works in the construction industry and has done work for the Olympics,

I find it hard to accept but he tells me that about 90% of the work force are migrant workers and English is the 5th most poplar language on site?

considering the sh*t we are in and the Olympics being the largest construction program this country has seen for decades that is imho criminal

Who ever gave these companies the contracts for the Olympics

I will just add this is not a dig at migrant workers

Roy

BE aware,the N.H.S will be privatised before you know it,our N.H.Sis on its knees at the moment,we opened the floodgates to immigration and we are going to pay for it,my jobs on the line due to cuts(im a specialised paediatric palliative care nurse) some of our cases are going over to private companys,and have been slowly for a number of years,before long we the british people will be paying for our health care. :-(

this country has been sold out to the french dam EEC
they now own our water companies gas electric and many more
even all but one of our ports is owned by the french

summit wrong there i think

this counrty has been raped no wonder its near bankrupt

Suzanne, We have always payed for our health care,

Roy

yes we have,but you will need to take out medical insurance as well as paying soon. :-D

we pay the french billions to do ATOS medicals for the ESA
why cant British doctors run it is this country no longer British

we also paid a french company to add the date and programs
for the NHS and the doctors surgeries to collaborate the medical info
so your medical records
could be accessed by all medical professionals dealing with you

and after paying it
the idea was scrapped waisting billions of £s

My Mum and Dad's best friend is a marxist.......who paid for his mole that was borderline cancerous willingly regardless of his principles.

I would pay extra for my health IF ...and now this won't go down very well........overseas use of the NHS was eradicated and the only way you could access treatement was via your NHS medical number. NOT for folk who didn't pay in for it in the first place.

*waits to be pelted with rotten veg*

Joy, You have a point,

Even euro sceptic politicians want use to stay part of the EU but the fact they do makes me suspicious

Roy

well do me a favour porkie pie
push me off the soap box

as you have got me so fired up with this thread :-D

OK Muffyxx, you asked for it

hears a rotting tomato........take that you evil person

Roy :-D

so take heed to what i am saying. :-( :-(

*shrugs* :-P

Joy, No chance, you can stay on that soap box as long as you want :-D

Roy

I'd agree with that Muffy, though it might go slightly against the original principles of the NHS, but then it did come about before we opened the immigration doors to all and sundry to come and abuse it. I'd go so far as to say, if you haven't lived and worked in the UK continuously for a minimum of five years, you PAY for your healthcare. The NHS should only be freely available to those who have contributed.

The same applies to our benefits system. You get nothing back unless you put in. I think that would greatly reduce our welfare bill in one go.