General Chat

Elton John and David Furnish become parents of Zachary Jackson Levon Furnish-John born on Christmas Day.
Elton is 62 and David 48. What do people think.?

I think that is every bit as selfish as women in their 50s and 60s have IVF.
Chances are child will be orphaned before he is 20. How can a couple of 60yr olds cope with a young child? Answer I suppose is the Nanny does the caring and playing 24/7

Agree Chris. When I heard the news I could hardly beleive it.!!
How irresponsible, that poor child, dread to think what sort of life he will have.

"A representative for the couple said they intended to protect and respect the privacy of the surrogate mother, and would not be discussing any details relating to the surrogacy arrangements."

well that in itself makes a nice change in this kind of arrangement. Age wise, they both seem fit and healthy, they can afford to pay for help ( understatement of the year lol) and the child will never go hungry. They have a long term relationship, I've no reason to believe they won't love the child as much if not more than many other couples. Good luck to them all.

By the same token though, in many of our family trees there are children whose parents died young who were looked after by grandparents,older than these two...were they less loved because their 'guardian' could not run around as much? should anyone NOT have a child in case they die and leave it orphaned? that happens to young parents too doesn't it.

Not saying there isn't that concern, as an older mother myself it is not something you dismiss lightly...the thought that you may not live to see your child a self- sufficient adult.

They may have money, and i'm sure child will be over indulged with every material thing.
The question is, do they have time to give.? They both have very demanding careers, and love to party.

Am not saying that older parents will not love a child but the life span is not there. Women aged 40 and over are less likely to conceive - that is nature's purpose. If they both died before the child is grown - is the child handed back to it's mother?

Do any of us? do parents who both work have 'time' for their kids? They party yes... which makes the headlines maybe two or three times a year, that leaves 362 days when they don't?

Demanding careers? no I don't think so, they work hard at what they do, as do most people who haven't retired...but they also have the money to retire right now should they wish to I imagine...how many parents can say that?

Yes they may indulge the child materially ...then again they may not..not everyone with money spoils their offspring.

Well said RR - the voice of reason. J*

Well said RR - the voice of reason. J*

I would think that if anything should happen to them, provision would have been made to ensure the childs welfare and future.Oh, I was bought up by my Grandma, She was 64 when she took over.**M**.

Thanks for your opinions ladies,. Its not about being right or wrong, just what people think. :>))

I am sure that both their wills will name a guardian. It is a bit of a surprise as theya re older and I wonder why they didn't have a child earlier as they have been together a long time. I have never been a particular admirer of Elton John but saw him interviewed and thought how much he had changed, gone was the flamboyancy, he seemed much more 'normal' (for want of a better word). I hope they will live long enough to give the child a good start in life and as has been said, what a lucky child.

I suppose biologically,that only one of them can be the actual parent,and near pensioners at that!


Bob
another turnaround!
the other day the topic was 14 year old parents?

The Sky news announced it that "Elton John has become a father" so maybe he is the natural father.?

I have no doubt that the child will be loved, but do have my reservations about anyone planning to bring up a baby in their 60s .

Not an easy task even when your young, but then I suppose they will have a Nanny as well.

I remember when the story came out a couple of years ago that Elton and David would like children there was a lot of media hype about it.......Now they`ve gone ahead with it all i would think this one will run and run...

The Beckhams as God parents do you think? I know they`re all really good friends.



Nicky

I have absolutely nothing against same sex couples having children.I just wonder why after all this time of being together they have decided to have a baby now.I am sure the baby will be well loved but it does make me think they are being a little selfish( in the sense of their ages and profession).How much time will they actually be able to spend with the child as it grows up.
I have a picture in my mind of Elton and David at parents evening standing in the queue to see teacher lol.I'm not being glib or a Bah humbug.I'm just not sure it is right.
I was a Nanny many years ago to a very well to do family and it was always me who took and collected the children from school with a chauffeur.They hated it .Because most of the other children had their Mum or Dad there.
I could go on ,but I won't lol
I wish Elton ,David and the new Baby all the very best.

Merlin, did not mean to insult you when I said 'ladies'. You posted just before me. I will amend that to ladies and Merlin. :>))
I was also brought up my my Grandma, who was of similar age to yours, but was obviously not so lucky.

My instinct is that they're too old and self indulgent. I also feel it's a shame that they didn't take on a child already in this world and in need of parenting.

Yuk. Not natural.

The name will be double barrelled from the OP? Furnish-John.

I have to say it, oh yes I do, that two parents of any age and gender who love the child and want it, and can look after it adequately, are a damn sight better than two parents of opposite genders who don't give two hoots.

and isn't it also just as hard for the child being brought up by a single parent, after the partner does a runner after the 'fun' bit, to answer that question 'where's your father?' at school ... answer "somewhere near Manchester, ( with a flash guitar and a big car but apparently no time or money for me "!)

( don't mind me , I'm bitter and twisted lol)