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I have a marriage cert for John Ramsey marrying a Lucy Holt in Kent 1882 entry No. 144

It says on the cert she is a widow and father is John Glover

I cannot find the marriage of Lucy Glover to a Holt anywhere.

but just gone on the Kent BMD website and there is Lucy Holt entry 144 (which is the one I have) and a marriage for Lucy Glover with entry 144 in 1882

surely the marriage could not have been registered twice in 2 different names?

can anyone explain this to me please as I am totally confused

Kim

Do you know whereabouts in Kent this happened?

second marriages are registered with the former married name and the maiden name of the bride.

Should have the same district and page numbers

Hope this helps

Jill

its Darenth district of Dartford

Kim

How old is Lucy on the cert you have/census?

I'm looking around in FreeBMD now:

Marriages Sep 1882 (>99%)
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Holt Lucy Dartford 2a 682
Ramsey John Dartford 2a 682
Waghorn Edwin Dartford 2a 682
WEBB Alice Dartford 2a 682

Marlene

so are you saying there would be 2 certs for the marriage, one in her married name and one in her maiden name?

Kim

Sometimes these websites log the people by each and every one of their names so that you don't miss them.
There is probably only one actual certificate available.

When I couldn't find an earlier marriage for a widow who married into our family, it turned out that she had been maried TWICE before.This of course didn't show up on her last marriage certificate in 1903. As her birthplace was quite distinctive, I was able to follow her through census and find the marriages to the previous husbands.

Gwyn

Jill

That is the cert I have

Kim

LOL, may be she was a widow also when she married the Holt chap!

Only one certificate but both names should show on the cert

The GRO index shows 2 entries by the name of the man and one entry in each of the womans surnames

But Heather - she gave her father as John Glover !! Although he could have been a stepfather ...

Jill

Heather

as norm cert just says full age

but she was born 1859

Kim

Have you found her on any census returns?

cert just says Lucy Holt no other names

Kim

I have her on all the census either as Lucy Glover then Lucy Ramsey

Kim

Looks like she only married the once before:

Births Jun 1859 (>99%)
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Glover Lucy Rosetta Dartford 2a 254

this is the link for the Kent BMD's

http://extranet3.kent.gov.uk/sp/rois/marriagesearch.cfm

you will she comes up twice with the same entry

Kim

Maybe your Lucy in 1861
Father is an ag. lab.

Name: Lucy Rosetta Glover
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Charlott Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Darenth, Kent, England

Civil Parish: Darenth
Ecclesiastical parish: Rochester
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Registration district: Dartford
Sub-registration district: Dartford
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 66
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Glover 19
Carolin Glover 1
Charlott Ann Glover 45
Emma Glover 20
Harriott Glover 6
John Glover 48
John Henry Glover 12
Lucy Rosetta Glover 2
Phillip Glover 8
Richard Glover 16

so she married and first husband died between census of 1871 and census of 1881? that's a nuisance!

Jill