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sprucespringclean

sprucespringclean Report 12 Nov 2007 23:09

I have found the family i'am looking for how do i find the mothers maiden name, to carry on with my reseach please.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 12 Nov 2007 23:20

If you can find the birth of one of the chidren on Free BMD, get the volume and page number and order the certificate from GRO. This will give you the mother's maiden name.
OR, look for the parents marriage on Familysearch.
Or, if you're lucky there might be a mother-in-law living with them on one of the censuses.
Or, find them on a census previous to the marriage. Look for the wife's first name and date and place of birth from the census when they were married.
Or, ask for a look-up here. Lots of us willing to help.
Margaret

sprucespringclean

sprucespringclean Report 12 Nov 2007 23:25

Hello Mararet
I have the dates for the parents William Williams born 1859 wife Maragret born 1862 but do not have her maiden name.

Thankyou

Cyprus

Cyprus Report 12 Nov 2007 23:29

google bmd -birth marriage and death,in the area you think they were married,and the year -and if you are very lucky you'll come up with a match!
Not all records have been transcribed yet---waiting for volunteers!
Family search is worth a try.
Send for the certificate though if you do think you have a match-£7 is more than worth all the hassle of going up the wrong tree!
Have fun

sprucespringclean

sprucespringclean Report 12 Nov 2007 23:35

Thankyou Margaret and me in Cyprus i'am going to google to see if i can find anything. Hopefully be back later.


Thankyou

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 12 Nov 2007 23:41

Do you have any more information? I can't find a William Williams born 1859 married to a Margaret on any of the censuses. Do you know where they were born or where they lived?
Margaret

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 12 Nov 2007 23:44

It usual to find the first child is born within 2 years of the marriage & often within the same area as the birth. This does not always work but it's a good starting point.
Also worth remembering, they weren't saints children did arrive before marriage!

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 12 Nov 2007 23:46

Free BMD has oodles of William Williams marrying a Margaret, lots of them in Wales. We have to know what area you're talking about.
Margaret

Cyprus

Cyprus Report 12 Nov 2007 23:47

Family search says
William Williams and Margaret Ann Talent were married 19/8/1877 St. Nicholas Liverpool.

sprucespringclean

sprucespringclean Report 12 Nov 2007 23:56

William Williams born 1859 Margaret born 1862.
Son Daviid 1881
Daughter Margaret 1883
Daughter Mary 1886
Son Idris 1888
Son Jenkin Davies 1889.
All born BEAUFORT BRECONSHIRE.

Sorry i'am slow on computer

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 12 Nov 2007 23:57

The 1881 census has a William Williams born 1860, Liverpool married to Margaret, born 1862, Liverpool. They're living at 72 Arnaud St.? West derby, Liverpool. He's a telegraph clerk.

sprucespringclean

sprucespringclean Report 13 Nov 2007 00:01

Sorry for got to say the town was Rassa Monmouthshire

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 13 Nov 2007 00:17

This looks like the family on the 1891 census. Mind you, if I'd known it was Wales I would have ignored this thread. This Canadian has great difficulty with Welsh names!
1891 census
Upper Rassan?Llangynidr?Breconshire, Wales
William William, head, 32, coal miner, born Brecon, Llangeattock?
Margaret, wife, 29
David Howell, son, 9
Margaret Ellen, dau, 7
Mary, dau, 4
Jenkin, son, 3 months
Wife & children all born Llangynidr?

sprucespringclean

sprucespringclean Report 13 Nov 2007 00:18

Hi jolly
I'am many many miles away thankfully from the info you have given you must be a local to know so much about the area though, or do you have ancesters like me from this area you never know we could be related.

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 13 Nov 2007 00:25

Margaret I'm Welsh & struggle with some of the place names!

spruce spring clean, this may come in handy in the future

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monfamilies/monprts.htm

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o°

°o.OOº°‘¨Claire in Wales¨‘°ºOO.o° Report 13 Nov 2007 00:25

sorry duplicate I keep getting back to the homeage

MrsBucketBouquet

MrsBucketBouquet Report 13 Nov 2007 00:29

possible?

Marriages Sep 1881 (>99%)
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JONES Margaret Crickhowell 11b 150
WILLIAMS William Crickhowell 11b 150

Crickhowell spans the boundaries of the counties of Breconshire and Monmouthshire

sprucespringclean

sprucespringclean Report 13 Nov 2007 00:29

Thankyou Mararet
This does look like this is the family however i'am still looking for Maragrets maiden name i hope i did'nt offend you by this being a Welsh family. I would like to thank you all on this thread for helping me.

sprucespringclean

sprucespringclean Report 13 Nov 2007 00:38

Hi still looking
This could be a possible as all the children born to this couple where born in Crickhowell.

Thankyou

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 13 Nov 2007 00:38

On Free BMD:
David Howell Williams born June quarter 1881, Crickhowell. (Volume 11b Page 125)

Margaret Ellen Williams born Dec. quarter 1883, Crickhowell (Volume 11b Page 91)

Jenkin Davies Williams born March quarter 1891, Crickhowell (Volume 11b Page 85)
(Could mother's maiden name be Davies? Or Howell from David's middle name?)

Still can't find the marriage. I think your best bet is to buy the birth certificate of one of the children to get mother's maiden name. Order from GRO using volume and page number. Don't pay more than 7 pounds.
Margaret