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I'm not going to totally rule out the marriage you showed us earlier but I have my doubts.
A) the marriage took place after Thomas & Annie returned from USA & well after the birth of some of the children
B) The marriage details you've shown us are for Thomas Henry Judge. Annie's husband is Thomas Alfred Judge on 2 census & Thomas Alfred Barker Judge on what I think is his birth registry

You need the following website

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

Just follow the on screen instrustions but have the details shown above ready as you will need them. They will ask for the Page & Volume numbers which are shown.
A cert will cost £7 if you give all the info & arrive in a week if you are lucky.

Night Heather, thanks

Night Heather, thanks

So any ideas Claire? Back to my original question, do I apply for a UK birth certificate or can I get the info now?

Nite guys - good luck.

No there is rarely a maiden name on a christening record unless it Methodist

So no maiden name there then!

No you don't have to pay but it just says this

IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0
North America
Search Results | Download

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Sarah Ann Judge Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth: 04 JUL 1883 Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: Thomas Judge Family
Mother: Annie


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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C397385 Film

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I've found this for their first born in USA. Is there anyway I can see any of these immediately or do I have to pay and wait? DID I SAY I WAS NEW TO ALL THIS!!!!FamilySearch® International Genealogical Index™ v5.0
International Genealogical Index

1. Sarah Ann Judge - International Genealogical Index - North America
Gender: Female Birth: 04 JUL 1883 Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Or Denis

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Denis Judge
Name: Denis Judge
Year of Registration: 1893
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Sheffield
County: South Yorkshire, Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 504 (click to see others on page)

This looks like Clara, I picked her as she has a more unusual name

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Clara Judge
Name: Clara Judge *******
Year of Registration: 1891 *********
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep *********
District: Sheffield ********
County: South Yorkshire, Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9c ***********
Page: 492 (click to see others on page) *************

THE ROW OF ********* ARE TO SHOW THE INFO YOU NEED FOR A CERT

Right - so they werent actually in Sheffield in 81.

And the 91 says Annie born Retford if you look at census image.

Hey Claire - I hadn't thought of that! Thanks

They were back by 1891. Any ideas on searching for her maiden name - I've just tried freebmd and got nothing

From this Annie was born in 1864/5
You say she had moved to America by 1880
Sarah the eldest child was born USA
I'd say there's a ggod chance that the marriage took place in America.

To me the only way forward is to get one of the children's birth cert to find out Annie's maiden name.

Ah right, didnt you say they were back in Sheffield in 81?

Just checked - yes you did! LOL, no wonder I couldnt find them.


As I said the 91 transcription says Pulford but the actual image - check it out - says Retford for annies place of birth.

Heather - no they were in USA in 1881 and appear on USA census then. How can I send you their info? Do you want to give me your email?

Creamcheese, if you look at the image of the census it actually says Lincolnshire, Retford on the 91. I still cant see them in 1881 though ? Can you put it on here for us. Im beginning to think this Annie is a second wife possibly - see the 5 year gap between the kids? Of course they may have lost a couple of kids in that period but something isnt quite right.

Thanks Claire and Heather (by the way, I didn't mean she'd had her children by 1880, that was when she went to USA) This is def the right person. But 1891 is saying she was born in Pulford and 1901 says Retford. All I need now is her maiden name. I'll go and search Pulford area now.

Thanks Claire - Im thinking possibly 2 wives here too.

Can you see them in 81? Cream cheese, Im sure its all really clear to you but we dont know anything about these people or their history, if you could put on the census info etc it does help people to follow (even when they arent as old as me!)