Genealogy Chat

In other words Mr Betts grow up. Irene

Can I shove my five penn'orth in again? Oh alright then. Gary, reading your replies you do have some - I repeat, some - valid points, and I respect that. What I don't respect, however, is the wording you use. You have in effect branded me various things, which frankly is completely uncalled for. I appreciate what you've done for your ex; that's commendable. But you then spoil things by saying some truly nasty things about people whose circumstances you don't know. In addition to my other replies, no, I'm not pleading poverty, but you don't know our particular circumstances. Like a lot of people, we give money to various charities - animals and humans - amongst other things. We have 5 cats who were all abandoned, of course by humans, and they cost money (they're worth it though). Also, having adopted 2 children who had a very bad start in life, 5 years ago, they (bless 'em) cost money too. These are just a few things, OK? It sounds as if I'm blowing my own trumpet - I'm not. I don't know why I'm justifying myself to you, but I guess I'm trying to make you see that most of us are not meanies and takers. Yes, there are some, but most of us are genuine. Think about what I've said, eh? Sorry I've rambled on, friends! I'm just a gasbag! Glenys x

Mr Betts You are paying all that money for an ex girlfriend from 10 years ago. What a complet and utter prat you are, get a life she's taking you for a ride.

Mr ??? Bets. your reply...... ** amd the people fom aussie are the worst, they earn treble for a job there and pay a tenth for property so they should be more than able to pay. --------------------------------------------------------------------- ... We, from Australia (the word aussie is slang for an Australian person!) dherr! The word -treble (high in pitch) don't you mean TRIPLE??? Yes...with the exchange rate, currently 7.50 GBP converts to over 18 AUD...so yes! we Australians pay nearly TRIPLE if certificates and subscriptions are required from the UK. So, with the exchange rate, it would seem like wage earners here in Australia, earn triple! You DO NOT know MY situation, so DO NOT make sweeping statements about 'the people from aussie being more than able to pay'...Thankyou! To me...you COME ACROSS as an inept, illiterate, uneducated young 'person'... maybe just out of school? But...your not, are you? I will not be rude and call you names! (as you have on numerous threads) I would suggest that you get your facts right before you put your mouse on ADD MESSAGE and click. ...Babz :O( Sunday Nov 14th UPDATE...I NOTICE YOU HAVE REMOVED YOUR OFFENSIVE COMMENTS MR BETTS? AN APOLOGY might be in the right direction as well. Might make you feel better afterwards. Best Wishes to you ...Babz :o)

Those of you who use Ancestry seem to think its a very good site. However I've had a look and couldn't find what I was looking for - BMD's, Census - Is there a lot missing? A lot of the sites I went onto in the hope of finding something turned out to be of american records. Am I doing something wrong or is it just that the information I want isn't available???

Mr Betts But do you have to be so rude when voicing your opinion, we all feel strongly about different things but try to be helpful without upsetting people. There is no need to voice what you did the way you did. I know that in Australia and NZ it is even harder to get any information, at least we can travel to our records office and confirm what we want, they travel much further unless we can do that for them. So please before you offend anyone else think before you type. If others are willing to help then that is their choice. This is a helping site not a offending one. Irene

Wendy There's a lot of researchers on here who are retired and living on pension and several of us who are disabled with children. Getting to a family records centre is impossible, as is affording to subscribe to everything going when you live on a low income. I agree that Mr Betts is entitled to make his point but he doesn't need to be quite so rude about it which is what everyone has been protesting about. You can make your opinion known without being downright insulting to everyone else on the thread. And whether you believe it or not, a lot of researchers started this hobby BECAUSE we are unable to get out of the house to do much else and we DO have a low income, yet you'll find when it comes to helping out and offering advice, us so-called 'freeloaders' are usually the first to offer to assist. I'd love to be able to work full time to fund this obsessive hobby but it isn't going to happen at the moment, so until it does I remain incredibly grateful to all those who DO help me out when I need it. Ali

Oh dear Mr Betts, do you want us to give you a medal for your charity to a former girlfriend. I for one have taken great delight in accessing Ancestry Plus for free and will continue to do so while it is available, I think to be able to sneak in and get freebies makes it all the more fun, after all what harm are we doing, and I am sure at the end of the day Ancestry Plus will still be able to continue without our contribution. Grace R

Please leave Mr Betts alone. He has a point and is entitled to make it. I do not yet subscribe to Ancestry because I am not sure if it will give me any further info than I have already found. If I thought it would then I would willingly pay the subscription. I cannot believe that so many family researchers are on such low pay that they cannot afford a few pounds for their hobby. Wendy

This depends on whether you have managed to get into the Ancestry Plus site before. For those who got in with the password a while ago, a cookie has been stored on their computers which autmatically logs them in. This is unlikely to work for those who haven't visited before. Jonathan

Hi All If you want to get on Ancestry Plus just Google Ancestry Plus and hit "I'm feeling lucky".It may load automatically or you can hit the first site shown at top of results page. Just tried it and it works for me . Mary

Thanks Jacqueline I just couldn't help myself when I read those most rude comments. I bet I know who is the last one to buy a drink or offer to buy drinks when they are out. Met that sort before, all mouth etc. We can all be rude if we want!! Irene

Mr Betts i am a relative newbie, and could only afford to subscribe to ancestry for 3 mths because I didn't want to feel that I was taking advantage of others on the genes site,( also I don't live in the U.K. so popping down the local records office isn't an option,) but because everyone has the same purpose they have been very helpful, and hopefully I can do some lookups for other people when I have mastered the site ( yeah new to computers too) . This is a very expensive hobby , and I would hate to add up the cost over the last 17 years (on and off) . I must admit I can't understand your attitude. You should maybe put your brain in gear before your fingers hit the keys! Your comments are very hurtful and quite demoralising. christine - post your request and I'm sure someone will do a lookup for you - even me!

That's very true Irene. Hope your husband finds a new job soon. Best wishes Jacquie

To add my penny worth, Mr Betts or what ever your name is I think you are very very rude. There are lots of reasons why people can't afford to subscribe to everything even half that there is around. Take myself, until last week I thought we were able to afford most things within reason, but my husband is now out of work, in fact the whole company close owing them all a months wages. Think yourself lucky and can afford to pay for whatever you want and don't be so rude to other people if they aren't in the same situation as you. My mum always said what goes round comes round watch out you don't find yourself in that situation and no one is willing to help you. Irene

Oh dear Sue and Gary, you have started something. I am fortunate and can afford to subscribe but will always help with a search if I can. It may not be done right away due to full time work....the reason I can afford it! Sometimes it is great to find something out for someone else when you are at a brick wall with your own family. Anyone reading this let me know if I can help.

Perhaps he forgot to take his tablet!! Or maybe his piles are playing up. I subscribed to ancestry for a year and it cost £70.44, which is still a lot of money!! I think I shouldn't have spent it , as I don't have money to burn, but will extract what I can for the year then not renew (until I win the lottery)!! Best wishes Jacquie

Don't feel bad about asking for lookups. No-one has to help anyone, the very kind people on here do so because they are happy to help. If they didn't want to they just wouldn't respond to the requests And we all need help in different ways - some people have access to census information, other people know about differnent types of records or where to look for that elusive information so everyone helps in whatever way they can, and when someone asks a question we all learn from it even when it doesn't seem relevant at the moment, it coudl be the answer to the next brick wall we hit! H

Hi, Most LDS centres have ancestry online and there is no charge to use it. So almost everyone can get free access. At the LDS I use they have 2 computers with access to it. It's worth checking if one near you has it and booking time there. Gwynne

What really made me angry about this thread was someone using the term 'freeloaders' - how incredibly rude! As I have ME, I can only work part-time and rarely go out socially. So when I found some useful stuff on Ancestry, my husband thought it would be a really good idea and bought me a year's subscription. We felt that it would be cheaper than trying to get to Records Offices etc, and would make my hobby more enjoyable by having access from home. I don't offer general lookups simply because I would feel really embarassed if I wasn't well enough to keep up with the number of requests, but if I see someone asking for a lookup then I will do it for them. I'm more than happy to help people out with a 'free' lookup because people on this site have done really helpful things for me. We all have access to different resources so we can share and help each other. Mandy :)