Genealogy Chat

Susanne Thanks for trying to help Brian

Sorry Brian, I have tried every variation possible on the 1851 disk (even managed to crash it LOL!!) but the only one that comes up for 1841 was the James that I listed yesterday. Sue:-)

Brian, I have looked on the 1837 online site, and saved an image for a James Garner b.1841 in Downham (probably Downham Market, Norfolk which is the right area for Ashill) If you send your email address to me(click on my name to send a message) I will send it to you. Don`t know if it is the right one though! Frances

Susanne Thanks for the info I have always been led to believe that my James was born c 1841 Brian

Frances The only William Garner i can find with a son called James born c 1834 is married to Susan ? he was born c 1801. There other children are Mary c 1826 & William c 1840 Brian

1851 James Garner born in Ashill in 1845: Head: GARNER, Stephen Neighbors 227784 Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace Stephen GARNER Head M 49 M Blacksmith Ashill-Nfk Mary GARNER Wife M 41 F Blacksmith Wife Carbroke-Nfk John GARNER Son U 17 M Blacksmith Ashill-Nfk Stephen GARNER Son - 15 M Blacksmith Apprentice Ashill-Nfk Deborah GARNER Daur - 13 F Scholar Ashill-Nfk Mary GARNER Daur - 12 F Scholar Ashill-Nfk Ann GARNER Daur - 11 F Scholar Ashill-Nfk James GARNER Son - 6 M Scholar Ashill-Nfk Rachel GARNER Daur - 4 F --- Ashill-Nfk Henry GARNER Son - 11 M --- Ashill-Nfk Address: ---, Swaffham Census Place: Ashill Swaffham, Norfolk PRO Reference: HO/107/1831 Folio: 428 Page: 24 FHL Film: 0207486 Sue:-)

The info I found was from the 1801-1837 marriage index, which I have. The site I gave you is a useful site for Norfolk info, which I thought might help. Sorry if I confused you. Frances

Frances Iv'e had a look on the site you gave me last night but i cannot find any thing about William's marriage in Ashill perhaps i am doing something wrong. Brian

Hi again Brian, Any joy yet? I have just read through the replies.If Pauls info sounds like a good match then it would tie in with the marriage info I found for William Garners marriage in Ashill. Might be a good place to start searching. Good luck Frances

Brian, think you may find that the Victorian Norfolk accent was incomprehensible if he had moved to another part of the country. I had Norfolk - Norwich on my GGFx2 census 1851 when he was in Stepney. He actually came from a village called Hethersett, even by today's standard that would probably have been pronounced something like "Herersart" and as he wouldnt have known how to spell it the enumerator probably just thought, "put nearest big city"!

Thanks to everybody who has replied to this thread Brian

I have just double checked and the only James listed with a father called William, within around 5 years, is the one that I listed. There are a couple of James's that are listed as Gchildren, so would not know their father's name. Sue:-)

Frances Thanks for your help i will have a look tomorrow off to bed know Brian

The address is www*genealogy*doun*org/transcriptions/index*php (don`t forget to substitute. for*) I have just had a quick look but it would pay you to have a good look through the site yourself. I will keep looking for you. message me direct if you need more help. Regards Frances

Could this be him in 1851? Head: GARNER, William Neighbors 131213 Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace William GARNER Head M 37 M Agricultural Labourer Tilney All Saints-NFK Sophia GARNER Wife - 32 F --- Tilney St Lawrence-NFK Mary Ann GARNER Daur - 12 F --- Clenchwarton-NFK James GARNER Son - 9 M --- Clenchwarton-NFK William GARNER Son - 7 M --- Tilney St Law-NFK Sophia GARNER Daur - 2 F --- Tilney St Law-NFK Address: ---, Wisbech Census Place: Tilney St Lawrence Wisbech, Norfolk PRO Reference: HO/107/1767 Folio: 142 Page: 8 FHL Film: 0193661

Frances No i hav'nt not sure how to get this kind of info Brian

Have found a William Garner married to Elizabeth Allcock at Ashill Norfolk 19.12.1834 Have you looked on the Norfolk Transcription Achives? Frances

Johnathan You are correct i do have this info Thank you for taking the time to help Brian

Frances I know his father was William also born in Norfolk no dates don't know mother. I know lots more about the family coming forward in time. By the way James was married to Henrietta Brian

Taken from the 1901 Decoder, this would seem to be the only one with an approximate birth year. Forename(s) Lastname Age PRO Age Year Born Where Born Census Place Census CountyOccupation James GARNER 56 1845 Norfolk Ashile Watton Norfolk Blacksmith & Wheelwright Paul