Genealogy Chat

this thread is too Full, please post request on new thread anything here will not be looked at!! Jess x

Hi. Jess. I wouldn't want to see you bored, so would you please check for the following. The Robbins family for the 1891. Frank born 1849 in London. Ellen born 1850 in Wiltshire. Laura born 1853 in Wilts. Mills born 1858 in Wilts. Bertha born 1861. Owen born 1860. Plus, these Hibberds for the 1891. Ada Hibberd born 1873-Wilts. Dinah Hibberd born 1868-Wilts. Thanks so much. Jan

maureen he is there with them the trancribed has him down as Pervase? but it reads as Percival Alfred Treece 13 Derby, Derbyshire, England Son Derby Derbyshire Augusta Treece 15 Derby, Derbyshire, England Daughter Derby Derbyshire Ethel Treece 11 Derby, Derbyshire, England Daughter Derby Derbyshire France Treece 17 Derby, Derbyshire, England Son Derby Derbyshire Frances Treece 7 Derby, Derbyshire, England Daughter Derby Derbyshire Mary Treece 46 Derby, Derbyshire, England Head Derby Derbyshire **Peravse Treece 9 Derby, Derbyshire, England Son Derby Derbyshire jess

kathleen is abergele anywhere near as a birth place Daniel Whincup 17 Manchester, Lancashire, England Son Cheetham Lancashire Emma Whincup 48 Eye, Suffolk, England Wife Cheetham Lancashire James E Whincup 6 Manchester, Lancashire, England Son Cheetham Lancashire Mary E Whincup 20 Manchester, Lancashire, England Daughter Cheetham Lancashire Emma Williams 17 Abergele, Wales Servant Cheetham Lancashire maybe , not being so far from salford where she later married? jess

Thanks, Jess. That looks to be a plausible explanation, given there's no other trace of her. It's possible that the enumerator has transcribed the place of birth wrongly. Emma was born at Adwyrclawdd, according to her birth certificate but we know she was unable to read & write and in any case an English person may have misunderstood or misheard her due to her accent (the family were welsh-speaking at home).

Thanks Jess, that's something to go by. I know nothing of the girls, so any help would be appreciated. Strange that Mills ended up in Titchfield, that's my part of the world. He was an Architect on the 1881 Census and I can't see much call for that in Titchfield. Laura was an artist painter and Frank was a sawyer mill owner but I don't know where or any more details. Thanks.

Hi Jess, Is it possible to do an address search on 1891? I am looking for who was living at 29 Garden Street, Hull Many thanks Christine

Please could you look for Charlotte Viney for me. She was born c.1880 Holborn Middx. I know this from 1881 census where I have found her whole family living at 4 Brooks Market, London. But I can't find her in 1901 or 1891. I am particularly keen to find her in 1901 because I'm hoping this may lead me to my grandfather, her husband, whom she married in August 1901. His name is Thomas Palmer and I don't know where he was born and there are quite a few of them. His father was William, a Plasterer. She was not at home 1901 census as I have found her mum and dad on their own. I'm hoping someone else might have more luck than I have in trying to find her. Many thanks.

josephine she's there in 1891 Viney, Ann 16 St Pancras, Middlesex Daughter Tottenham Middlesex Viney, Charlotte 10 Holborn, Middlesex Daughter Tottenham Middlesex Viney, Elizabeth 13 Holborn, Middlesex Daughter Tottenham Middlesex Viney, Emily 15 Holborn, Middlesex Daughter Tottenham Middlesex Viney, George 4 Tottenham, Middlesex Son Tottenham Middlesex Viney, James 2 Tottenham, Middlesex Son Tottenham Middlesex Viney, Jane 39 St Pancras, Middlesex Wife Tottenham Middlesex Viney, Joseph 6 Tottenham, Middlesex Son Tottenham Middlesex Viney, William 40 St Pancras, Middlesex Head Tottenham Middlesex Viney, William 7 Holborn, Middlesex Son Tottenham Middlesex looking now for 1901 everyone except Charlotte! Elizabeth Catchpole 1 St Pancras, London, England Niece Wood Green Middlesex George Viney 14 Tottenham, Middlesex, England Son Wood Green Middlesex James Viney 12 Tottenham, Middlesex, England Son Wood Green Middlesex Jane Viney 50 St Pancras, London, England Wife Wood Green Middlesex Joseph E Viney 16 Tottenham, Middlesex, England Son Wood Green Middlesex William Viney 51 St Pancras, London, England Head Wood Green Middlesex Charlotte is hiding! does she have a second name? jess

ann libby 1901 Edith A Willey 5 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Daughter Sheffield Yorkshire Ellen Willey 45 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Head Sheffield Yorkshire Ethel M Willey 17 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Daughter Sheffield Yorkshire George B Willey 21 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Son Sheffield Yorkshire Mabel H Willey 4 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Daughter Sheffield Yorkshire Thomas J Willey 9 Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Son Sheffield Yorkshire no mother listed so will go back 10 more years and see if she is there 1891 inc mother ELLEN Willey, Ellen 35 Sheffield, Yorkshire Wife Sheffield Yorkshire Willey, Ethel M 7 Sheffield, Yorkshire Daughter Sheffield Yorkshire Willey, George 34 Pemberton, Lancashire Head Sheffield Yorkshire Willey, George R 11 Sheffield, Yorkshire Son Sheffield Yorkshire Willey, Mabel H 1 Sheffield, Yorkshire Daughter Sheffield Yorkshire jess

Sorry, can't look up men in kilts - doesn't cover Scotland! jess

Thanks Jess. I'm slightly confused because when I found William & Jane (mum & dad) in 1901 they were on their own with no children at home - so does this mean depending on where you search you may get different results? Do you know the address they were at in 1901 please. But back to Charlotte - no I don't have anymore names for her. As she and Thomas were married about 5 months after the census I was hoping if I found her maybe he would be nearby. Back to my brick wall I think - but thanks or trying.

Hi Jess, it's me again. I have found two more Robbins children, so that link has grown. Frank did marry and it was to Annie Sophia Bennett in Somerset, so you were spot on. If you still have time, would you check out Christopher Ellis or William Rose and see if they have a wife called Lily. I found a wedding for Lily Robbins June qtr 1888 at Devizes and these are the two candidates. Lily was christened 1859 in Devizes but they did three of their children that day, so unless they were triplets, I haven't got her actual birth day. Thanks

jan This MIGHT be your Lily Rose, George S 6 Trowbridge, Wiltshire Son Trowbridge Wiltshire Rose, George W 31 Trowbridge, Wiltshire Head Trowbridge Wiltshire Rose, Lily K 31 Trowbridge, Wiltshire Wife Trowbridge Wiltshire Rose, Margaret L 4 Trowbridge, Wiltshire Daughter Trowbridge Wiltshire do the childrens names mean anything? can you go back and see the other brides name? I have a William rose wit a wife cecelia in Devizes - which would clarify that the other match is the one we are looking for still looking though jess

josephine Source information: RG13/1259 Registration district: Edmonton Sub-registration district: Tottenham ED, institution, or vessel: 85 Folio: 35 Page: 11 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 80 the address was Market Place Wood Green. census returns should be the same wherever you look jess

Ann, think you need to trace his marriage and send for the certificate to see who he married etc Where might i find George Hinds, who with and when? jess

Robert- losing the plot with your Cookes! might be - can't remember off hand sibs names Aaron Cooke 24 Matlock, Derbyshire, England Son St Margaret Leicestershire Arthur Cooke 12 Leicestershire, England Son St Margaret Leicestershire Davd Cooke 21 Matlock, Derbyshire, England Son St Margaret Leicestershire Elenor Cooke 51 Lea Wife St Margaret Leicestershire Robert Cooke 9 Leicestershire, England Son St Margaret Leicestershire Thomas Cooke 48 Loughborough, Leicestershire, England Head St Margaret Leicestershire Thomas Cooke 24 Matlock, Derbyshire, England Son St Margaret Leicestershire Elizabeth Spencer 33 Leicestershire, England Servant St Margaret Leicestershire Source information: RG10/3269 Registration district: Leicester Sub-registration district: East Leicester ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Folio: 50 Page: 13 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 52 jess

''Twinke twinkle '' any more for any more? jess

Jess. Re the Robbins. I looked up the christening of Lily and she was christened 5/6/1870 in Devizes. I then went to Free BMD and looked up the likely candidates. For June qtr 1888 at Devizes district there are:- Christopher Ellis. Lily Robbins. William Rose. Cecile Anne West. I assume then that she married Christopher Ellis. I have nothing else to go on and no children yet. With regard to the Mills Robbins aged 34 at Titchfield and Owen aged 25 at Westbury, have you still got the address of where they were? I am intrigued especially by Mills as he has come to near my home from Wiltshire. Also, how do you get the 1901 Census. Can it be bought or do you have to subscribe. I have loads of look-ups and don't want to abuse you help, so would buy it if it is available. Thanks for your help as always. Jan

Hi Jess, Did you see my query re addres lookup? Many tanks Christine