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Can anybody help on the above ive looked on 1901 census as anyone got any ideas please Bev

hi bev,looking for family of d n bates stephenson drive leicester,his war medals are on ebay ,trying to trace family,he was in royal navy in ww1 so he should be on 1901 census,long shot i know ,but any help to get medals back to family ,would be great,regards tony

Greeting’s Again John. ……. So you too just went for the sound track then ? …lol :0) and it's just been done out and returned to it's original condistion... 2089. 1851. Census. 285 482 15 68 31 NEEDLE GATE THOMAS TOMKINS HEAD M 31 M FWK. LEI. LEICESTER. LEI LEICESTER 286 482 15 68 31 NEEDLE GATE SELINA TOMKINS WIFE M 35 F WORSTED SPINNER. LEI. LEICESTER. LEI LEICESTER 2089. 1851. Census. 303 483 16 71 57 NEEDLE GATE SAMUEL TOMKINS HEAD M 52 M FWK . NTH. KETTERING. NTH KETTERING 304 483 16 71 57 NEEDLE GATE ELIZABETH TOMKINS WIFE M 50 F FWK. SCT. = SCOTLAND. SCT 305 483 16 71 57 NEEDLE GATE ANN TOMKINS DAU U 29 F SEAMER. LEI. LEICESTER. LEI LEICESTER 306 483 16 71 57 NEEDLE GATE JOHN TOMKINS SON U 27 M FWK. LEI. LEICESTER. LEI LEICESTER 307 483 16 71 57 NEEDLE GATE WILLIAM TOMKINS SON U 18 M FWK. LEI. LEICESTER. LEI LEICESTER 308 483 16 71 57 NEEDLE GATE JOSEPH TOMKINS SON 12 M WINDER. LEI. LEICESTER. LEI LEICESTER 309 483 16 71 57 NEEDLE GATE ELIZABETH TOMKINS DAU U 20 F FANCY STITCHER (HOSIERY) LEI. LEICESTER. LEI LEICESTER 310 483 16 71 57 NEEDLE GATE LOUISA TOMKINS GDAU 11 F SEAMER. LEI. LEICESTER. LEI LEICESTER 311 483 16 71 57 NEEDLE GATE RACHEL TOMKINS DAU 10 F SEAMER. LEI. LEICESTER. LEI LEICESTER 312 483 16 71 57 NEEDLE GATE JAMES TOMKINS SON 8 M WINDER. LEI. LEICESTER. LEI LEICESTER 313 483 16 71 57 NEEDLE GATE AMBROSE TOMKINS SON 6 M . LEI. LEICESTER. LEI LEICESTER 314 483 16 71 57 NEEDLE GATE ELIZA TOMKINS GDAU 2 F LEI. LEICESTER. LEI LEICESTER © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2001. Now in the dark dim past you asked me to keep my eyes peeled for a Tompkins as a Minister ? 1841. Census. HO 107 / 604. / 10. / Page. 36. St. Margaret’s Parish. Bow Street. William TOMPKINS.30. Minister. Not born within the County. Elizabeth Perkins. 15. Female Servant. Born within the County. © Crown Copyright National Archives. MIKE.

Mike, Many thanks, that could be the answer, could I please have the 1851 transcript for Thomas TOMKIN and Samuel TOMKIN. The Odeon, remember it well, met my wife there on a blind date back in 1957, dont ask me what the film was !!!!!!!!!!. Jon

Greeting's Again John.... I wonder if there has been a transcribe error ? On the 1851. Census there is a Thomas TOMKIN aged 31. Living at No. 31 Needle Gate but states born Leicester. Where as Samuel TOMKIN. 52. is living at 57, Needle Gate. states born Kettering Northamptonshire. Needle Gate is definitely in the parish of St. Margaret's. Just wonder if the enumerator or transcriber got carried away and put Thomas down as born Leicester ? And YES the Parish of St. George is within the City Centre. the Church is next door to the Odeon Cinema (Queens Street ) if you can remember that.... MIKE.

Mike, again many thanks for your time and effort. Cannot understand why Samuel TOMKINS appears on the 1851 and his first son Thomas 1820 does not ?, is St George's within the City boundary?. Regards Jon

Greeting’s Again John…… Sorry but there are NO Thomas TOMKINS within the age range you’ve given On the 1851. Census for the City of Leicester. The only persons coming from Northamptonshire on this Census are as follows:- Sarah TOMLINSON. Widow. 80. Born Daventry. Chris TOMLINSON. 18. App. Born Kettering. Samuel TOMKINS. 52. F.W.K. Born Kettering. John TOMKINS.59. Supper Invalid. Born Kettering. I’ve not attempted the 1841. Census as this will involve trawling Through some 40 Folders each with 50 pages and 50 names per page. Which would amount to a weeks work and that’s only for the City only. And the information given on these early Census will only give:- Name. Age. Occupation of Head, and weather born within the County or not. So if we do find a Thomas (NOT born within the County) we’ll not know If it's for Northamptonshire or not …… MIKE.

Thank you Mike Youv'e been a great help Bev

Greeting’s Again Beverly…… Here he is in 1851. Scanned census Index for the City of Leicester.:- WELLINGTON STREET JOHN PACKWOOD HEAD M 26 M SHOEMAKER LEI FOXTON WELLINGTON STREET ANN PACKWOOD WIFE M 26 F SHOE BINDER LEI LEICESTER WELLINGTON STREET JOSEPH PACKWOOD SON 1 M LEI LEICESTER © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2001. And again in 1861. Scanned Census Images.:- RG 9 / 2298 / Folder 138 / Page. 28. St. Mary De Castro Parish. No. 20. Middle Street. John Packwood. Head. Mar. 36. Shoe Maker b. Foxton. Leicestershire. Ann Wife. 37. Shoe Binder b . Leicester. Joseph. Son. 7. Scholar b. Leicester. Sarah. Dau. 5. Scholar b. Leicester. Emma. Dau. 3. Scholar b. Leicester. John. Son. 1. b. Leicester. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2004. Burials for Packwood Foxton. Name / Dates. / Age. PACKWOOD JOSEPH 16 JUL 1815 56 PACKWOOD JEMIMA 14 APR 1816 11 MTHS PACKWOOD SARAH 21 DEC 1816 2 PACKWOOD JOHN 31 DEC 1816 4 PACKWOOD WILLIAM 14 FEB 1823 59 PACKWOOD EDWARD 19 NOV 1823 4 PACKWOOD JOHN 23 MAR 1825 3 PACKWOOD SARAH 09 JAN 1828 INF PACKWOOD ELIZABETH 23 APR 1831 9 WKS PACKWOOD ELIZABETH 21 OCT 1831 54 PACKWOOD JAMES 01 NOV 1833 27 PACKWOOD JOSIAH 30 DEC 1840 3 PACKWOOD * JOSEPH 28 AUG 1866 67 PACKWOOD * MARGARET 19 APR 1870 65 PACKWOOD JOSEPH ROBERT 29 JUL 1888 51 © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2002. This might be John’s parents ? HO 107 / 590 / 02. Foxton. Silver Street. Joseph Packwood. 42. Ag. Lab. Margaret. 34. Ann. 11. Joseph. 9. All born within the County. Marriage Found :- Joseph Packwood. ~ Margaret Hughes. Foxton. 1821. By Banns. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2002. MIKE.

Hi Mike As Im stuck with others ive decided to go back to Packwoods can you look on 1841or 1851 please for a John Packwood Birth 1825 Foxton Thank you Bev

Mike, sorry to be a pain, I know you've already helped me I was just wondering if you have any other Ideas as to how I can trace John And Fanny???? ( Holmes/Robinson) I just seem to be going around in circles, and getting VERY dispondant indeed, Have death certs, and Marriage cert, even first borns birth cert, but still dont know where to go from here with this brick wall. any Ideas gratefully recieved many thanks Julie

Ey up Mike Now you see my difficulty! That's the only Annie Goadby I can find and it's not the right one. It wouldn't be so bad if I didn't know all three lived well into the twentieth century. Sheila

Hi Mike I thought the Eld's would be simple, have all the family but not my Ann so am ploughing through. Hopefully the marriage will appear somewhere eventually. Thanks as always Elaine

Greeting’s Again Sheila……. Did you find this one for 1881. ? Dwelling: 49 Walnut St Census Place: Leicester St Mary, Leicester, England Source: FHL Film 1341757 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3173 Folio 121 Page 16 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Mary CLEMENTS W 67 F South Croxton, Leicester, England Rel: Head Occ: Dispensers Widow Sam CLEMENTS U 23 M Leicester, England Rel: Son Occ: Clicker Shoe Trade Kate CLEMENTS U 29 F Leicester, England Rel: Daur Occ: Dressmaker Sarah CLEMENTS U 27 F Leicester, England Rel: Daur Occ: Machinist Shoe * Annie GOADBY M 32 F Leicester, England Rel: Daur Occ: Commercial Travellers Wife Alice M. GOADBY 1 F Leicester, England Rel: Grand Daur © Crown Copyright National Archives. Not sure if I can find any marriages but I’ll have a look latter on tonight…… MIKE.

Greeting’s Again Elaine…. Below is the only Marriages for Eld Found :- But these could be brothers to Ann ? St. Margaret’s Parish Church….. Entry No.275, OCT 22, 1843, after Banns ROBERT ELD, full age, bach. GARDENER, of RUSSELL St, s. of JOSEPH ELD, GARDENER LYDIA WESTON, full age, sp. of HILL St, d. of JOSEPH WESTON, LABOURER Wits: THOMAS PERCY, MARY PERCIVAL St. Margaret’s Parish Church. :- Entry No.261, DEC 24, 1846, after Banns WILLIAM ELD, full age, bach. GARDENER, of SHORT St, s. of JOSEPH ELD, GARDENER MARY ANNE FLETCHER, full age, sp. of HILL St, d. of WILLIAM FLETCHER, WHEEL WRIGHT Wits: THOS. STURGESS, SARAH FLETCHER. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2001. 1841. Scanned Census Images. :- HO 107 / 604 / 10 / Page. 5. St. Margaret’s Parish. Russell Square. William Hurst. 40. Gardener Martha. 40. Seamer. Mary. 20. Worsted Spinner. Charlotte. 15. Ditto. Ann. 10. Sewer of Gloves. George. 8. All born within the County. HO 107 / 604. / 10. / Page. 9. St. Margaret’s Parish. Russell Street. Joseph Eld. 50. Gardener. Mary. 30. George. 20. Gardener. Thomas. 20. Frame Work Knitter. William 15.Gardener. Robert. 15. Ditto. All born within the County. © Crown Copyright National Archives. I’ve not found Ann & William Hurst as a Family But there is only another 950 names to go through And that’s just for St. Margaret’s Parish….. MIKE>

Ey up Mike I can't stay away. Have tackled my Goadbys again today. Some time ago you were able to give me the following marriage and death entries: St. Margaret's Church Leicester. Entry No.122, DEC 22, 1867, after Banns JOSEPH GOADBY, 22, bach. RIVETER, of PINGLE St, s. of JOSEPH GOADBY, FWK ANN BODYCOTE, 19, sp. of WILLOW St, d. of CHARLES BODYCOTE, FWK Wits: THOMAS GOADBY, SARAH GOADBY. and Welford Road Cemetery :- Names. / Dates. / Age. / Last known address./ Parish Area. C = Consecrated Ground. N = Section. 175. = Plot No. C = Common Land. 19001. = Burial No. GOADBY JOSEPH 14 SEP 1877 32 PALMERSTON STREET SAINT MARGARET PARISH C N 175 C 19001 I have made considerable progress now and know that Ann Goadby had two further relationships after Joseph's death, to a Mr Smith, by whom she had a son Arthur born about 1882 and to a Mr Riley, by whom she had a daugher Annie born about 1886. In the 1891 and 1901 censuses she described herself as married and gives the names Smith and Riley respectively, but there is no sign of the husbands. I've looked at the 1837 site without any great success. Do you by any chance have marriage entries? In summary she was Goadby in 1871, Smith in 1891 and Riley in 1901. Can't find her at all under any name on the 1881. Cheers Mike Sheila

Mike OK, Thanks for trying. Can we try another approach, can u give me details from 1841 and 1851 census for Thomas TOMKINS b1807(Northampton) and Thomas TOMKINS b1820(Leicester)?. Many thanks Jon

Hi Mike Sorry to be a pain, if you cannot find the marriage, would you be able to find a birth/chritening for Ann eld. Am trying to tie her in with the Eld's who were with her and all the siblings someone kindly let me know about, I just cannot find her. She is as elusive as the Hursts she gives birth to later!!! I am hoping she is the daughter of Joseph and Ann Eld. Many thanks Elaine

Hi All Does anyone have access to the 1841 census for Leicester/ Elaine

Hi Mike Am looking for a marriage just before 1837 between Ann Eld and William Hurst if you can help, have not been here for a while so hope you are keeping well and not overdosed! Elaine