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I am looking for Strettons,Gilfords,Masters and Packwoods

Nudge :- To be in front of part three thread.

Nice one just thought I would say hello instead of asking for some info Elaine

Greeting’s Again Margaret… “ One Marriage coming up.” :- St. Margaret’s Church Leicester.:- Entry No.360, OCT 19, 1857, after Banns EDWARD HEAWOOD, 24, bach. WHEELWRIGHT, of CHURCH GATE, s. of JOSEPH HEAWOOD, WHEELWRIGHT MARY TYERS, 23, sp. Of CHURCH GATE, d. of WILLIAM TYERS, LABORER Wits: WILLIAM WRIGHT, JANE TYERS. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2001. Now I’ll see what else I can find for you… MIKE.

Greeting’s Again Margaret….. I think these are Edward’s BROTHERS ? :- 1881. Census:- Dwelling: Census Place: Braunstone, Leicester, England Source: FHL Film 1341746 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3129 Folio 55 Page 3 Marr Age Sex Birthplace William HEAWOOD M 42 M Braunstone, Leicester, England Rel: Head Occ: Wheelwright Employing 1 Man Annie Eliza HEAWOOD M 26 F Leicester, Leicester, England Rel: Wife John HEAWOOD Widow. 38 M Braunstone, Leicester, England Rel: Brother Occ: Wheelwright. ************************************ Dwelling: 56 Kent St Census Place: Leicester St Margaret, Leicester, England Source: FHL Film 1341754 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3160 Folio 78 Page 18 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Jos. HEAWOOD M 44 M Braunstone, Leicester, England Rel: Head Occ: Carpenter Elizth. HEAWOOD M 40 F New Town Linford Rel: Wife Occ: Wife Clara T. HEAWOOD 18 F New Town Linford Rel: Daur Occ: Assistant © Crown Copyright National Archives. MIKE. PS. Edward doesn't want to be found !!!!! Have you tried to trace his Children using details from the 1871. Census:- RG 10 / 2975 / Folder. 53. / Page 49. Hash Road / Street Oldbury ?

Greeting's Again Margaret.... Could these be Edward's Sibling's Ages match & place of birth. Transcribed as HAWOOD ? :- 1881. Census. RG 11. / 2838. / Folder.69. / Page. 34. Same Road as 1871. Oldbury. No. 36, Hash Road. John Wheat. Head. Mar. 50. Gen. Lab. b. Bilston Staff's. Fannie. Wife. 45. b Shropshire. George. Son. 25. Gen Lab. b Bilston. Staff's. William HAWOOD. Visitor. 14. Painter. b Oldbury. Joseph HAWOOD. Visitor. 13. Scholar. b. Oldbury. © Crown Copyright National Archives. MIKE.

Here They are on 1871 Census (I Think) Oldbury Staffordshire 210 Hash Road Pronounced haywood Edward head 37 Braunstone William Son 5 Oldbury Joseph Son 2 Oldbury Mary Daughter 12 Braunstone Catherine Daughter 9 Braunstone Beverly

Hi Mike. The two HAWOOD sons William and Joseph at Hash Road Oldbury are Edward's siblings. They seem to be visiting. I found Edward in 1871 as HAYWOOD with these two sons and his two daughters born in Leicester but not his wife Mary(Tyers) Heawood. I can't seem to find any trace of EDWARD and the two daughters or wife in 1881. I dont know why William and Joseph were visiting in Oldbury. The WHEAT family in Hash Road Oldbury do not seem to be relations. All the other Heawoods mentioned by you are ours, I have been able to trace these from the details you gave the other day. I have been able to find out such a lot since I had your replies to my first request. Thanks for all your help.

Ey up - it's me again - with another question (must get over and buy those maps Mike talks about) Wondering now where Blue Boar Lane was. My great grandma lived there as a child. Also - if anyone's feeling generous - I have John Lilley at 15 Blue Boar Lane on the 1871 census. He was 83 then so had been around for a bit. Wondering if anyone has him on an earlier census...any information appreciated and will reciprocate with Coventry area if anyone needs it. Many thanks Sheila

Hi all A question for everyone and really to see if this has happened to Bev. Have tied in rels here and there and previously it was to do with a Stretton and Hurst getting married and if I remember right it unearthed a Stretton for Bev. Have just received a cert for the marriage of Charles Hurst and Jemima Stretton which is on the St Margs reg but Stretton as written in the banns is spelt Street on the wedding certificate and the same goes for the witnesses. In fact I read the other witness as Shelton instead of Stretton. Am lost as this has never happened before, need help!!! Elaine

Greeting's Again Margaret..... Not sure if you have these :- 1891. Scanned Census Image. RG 12/ 2521. / Folder 154. / Page. 37. Leicester. St, Peter's Parish. Elm Street ( now know as Elmdale Street off Loughborough Road. No. 20. WILLIAM HAYWOOD. Head. Mar. 24. Shoe Hand. b Oldbury. Worcestershire. Emma. Wife. 24. Shoe Hand. b. Belgrave Leicester. Emma. Dau. 2. b. Belgrave. Leicester. © Crown Copyright National Archives. RG 12 / 2187. / Folder. 48. / Page. 3. Ruston Spencer. Staffordshire. Ruston Marsh. JOSEPH HAYWARD. Head. Mar. 36. Police Constable. b. Oldbury. Worcester. Dorcas. Wife. b Black Heath. Staffordshire. Thomas. Son. 16. Railway Porter. b. Black Heath. Nancy. Dau. 9. Scholar. b. Dilhorne. Staffordshire. Frederick Albert. Son. 7. Scholar. b. Ditto. Victoria. Dau. 3. Warslow Staff's. Dorcas. Dau. 10. Months Old. (June 1890.) b. Ruston. Staff's. © Crown Copyright National Archives. 1891. Census. RG 12 / 2501. / 29./ Page 3. Braunstone. William Heawood. Head. Widow.52. Wheelwright. b Braunstone. Eliza Burden Widow. 50. Housekeeper. b. Belgrave. Leicester. © Crown Copyright National Archives. ( umm.... now where have we heard Belgrave before William Jr's Wife.... could this be her maiden name? ) Still no luck with Edward..... I've tried War graves Site... There was a burial off the NBI 8th. May 1879. Edward Haywood Aged 42. Sheffield. I did wonder if Edward was away looking for work (Carpenter) on the night of the Census 1881. That ties in with Son's (William) Occupation of Painter. Also had a close look at that 1871. Census and it looks like it states Edward was a WIDOW Aged 37. MIKE.

Greeting's Elaine..... The Certificate you received...... Was the writing in Long hand or was it typed ? If it was typed then ring them up and ask of explanation !!!! and you would like a correct one back...... And tell them Spec Savers do great deals now days ....lol :0)) MIKE.

Greeting's Sheila I presume...lol :0) Blue Boar Lane is not there today... But if you draw a line across Highcross Street from Free School Lane then that's where it started ..... Best hurry up if you want to see it it's about to be dug up for the new extension to the Shires Shopping Centre....... John's on the 1861. census Returns aged 72. give me a few minutes and I'll try and trace him back as far as I can for you..... MIKE.

In Reply Wait for it... Handwritten 1958 so who do I talk to? LOL Elaine

Hi Elaine Ive never had that on the certificates ive got its always been spelt Stretton Bev

1851.Census. 2090 / 362 / 2 / 6 / Blue Boar Lane. JOHN LILLEY HEAD M 60 M LOOM HAND LEI LEICESTER ELIZABETH LILLEY WIFE M 50 F EMP: AT WORSTED FACTORY LEI LEICESTER CHARLOTTE LILLEY DAU U 21 F EMP: AT WORSTED FACTORY LEI LEICESTER JOHN LILLEY SON U 18 M EMP: IN FANCY FACTORY LEI LEICESTER DINAH LILLEY DAU 14 F EMP: AT WORSTED FACTORY LEI LEICESTER RICHARD JACKSON LODG 14 M EMP: AT WORSTED FACTORY LEI LEICESTER © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2001. 1861. Scanned Census Image. Leicester. St. Nicolas Parish. No. 13, Blue Boar Lane. John Lilley. Head. Mar. 72. Frame Work Knitter b . Leicester. Elizabeth. Wife. 60. b Leicester. No. 15.Blue Boar Lane. John Lilley (Jnr) Head. Mar. 28. Weaver b Leicester. Sarah. Wife. 24. b Leicester. Charlotte. Dau. 4. b Leicester. Sarah. Dau. 2. b Leicester. John. Son. 11 Months Old. b. Leicester. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2004. It will take a while for me to find them on the 1841. ( no search programme) And I’ll see what else I can find…… MIKE. If you post the year I'll see if I can find it for you re Marriage Cert for St.Margaret's Church

Elaine..... Here is what should be on the cert cut and paste it and send it to them St. Margaret's Church :- Entry No.80, DEC 25, 1858, after Banns CHARLES HURST, 19, bach. PAINTER, of GEORGE St, s. of WILLIAM HURST, PAINTER JEMIMA STRETTON, 23, sp. of GEORGE St, father's name & occupation not given Wits: WILLIAM HENRY STRETTON, LOUISA STRETTON MIKE. Map for Blue Boar lane winging it's way to your E-mail address

Greeting’s Again Sheila. 1841. Census. Scanned Images. HO 107 / 605. / 14. / Page. 36. Leicester. St. Nicolas Parish. Blue Boar Lane. (Second record on Lane so low numbers) John Lilley. Head.45.Stocking Maker. Elizabeth Wife. 35. Ditto. Charlotte. 10. Ditto. John. 8. Ditto. ? ? (male) 4. Ditto. Elizabeth Smith. 15. Ditto. Ann Sharpe. 15. Dress Maker. All born within the County. © Crown Copyright National Archives. Marriages found :- JOHN LILLEY.~ ELIZABETH BOOTHBY. St. Nicolas Church. 1827. By Banns. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2002. I have records of a further 7 Lilley Marriages Including this interesting one :- JANE LILLEY. ~ JOHN STREETON. All Saints Church. 1803. By Banns. Welford Road Cemetery Burials :- John Lilley. 2nd July. 1873. Aged 85. Last Address:- Blue Boar Lane. U.= Unconsecrated Ground. T. = Section. Plot No. 469. Mode = C = Common Grave. Burial No. 30417. Elizabeth Lilley. 29th. May. 1875. Aged. 72. Last Address Leicester Union House. Same details as John for grave Burial No. 34242. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2004. All Saints Church Lilley Burials :- LILEY BENJAMIN 28 JUN 1830 80 LILLEY ANN 01 APR 1841 46 LILLEY ELIZABETH 02 NOV 1817 67 LILLEY HENRY 29 SEP 1850 19 LILLEY JANE 14 OCT 1833 80 LILLEY MARY 22 APR 1819 19 LILLEY RICHARD 26 JAN 1823 71 St. Margaret’s Church. No. 1.:- LILLEY HENRY JUN 1818 2 LILLEY JANE MAY 1818 3 St Margaret’s Church No. 2.:- LILLEY MARY 18 DEC 1820 24 LILLEY SOPHIA 23 JAN 1820 INF © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2001. MIKE.

Hi Mike. Thanks again for interesting info. I think the William Heawood in Braunstone age 52 is brother to my gt.grandad the illusive EDWARD. You may be right in that 1871 Edward could have just been away from Oldbury working, I saw that he was a widow. Can't trace a death for Mary Heawood (Tyers) his wife but youngest son Joseph was born in 1869 and then she was not on 1871 census. I dont think PC Joseph Haywood was one of ours, no relation to the long arm of the law. The William HAYWOOD on 1891 census at 20 Elm St is grandfather. He had 2 more daughters in Belgrave this was before he moved back to Birmingham and subsequently Smethwick. By the way thanks also to Beverley for info about address in Hash Road Oldbury. I hadn't seen that house number before. I see mention about nudge forward. Don't understand this. I will do it if I know how. Margaret

Your welcome Margaret You just put nudge in to bring the thread back to begining of board. Mike nudged so this thread was in front of the old thread,so we use this one. instead of writing message you just put nudge. I Hope this explains it but ive probably gone the long way round explaining Bev