Genealogy Chat

Greeting's Again Julia..... Sorry for the delay but you'll see that there is a different surname involved and states 'SON ' which as taken the time trying to sort out as to weather it was a son of Elizabeth from an other marriage but not bottomed it yet..... 1861. Scanned Census Image. RG 9 / 2270 / Folder. 58. / Page. 4. Ashby De La Zouch. Woodville. California Row. Thomas Holmes. Head. Mar. 50. Collier. b Ibstock. Leicestershire. Elizabeth Wife. 51. Collier's Wife. b Norton.Leicestershire. Ernest Thomas KELLAM . Son. Unmar. 19. Potter. b Humberstone. Leicester. William KELLAM. Son. Unmar. 18. Potter. b. Humberstone. Leicester. JOHN HOLMES. Son. Unmar. 18. Potter. b. Ibstock. Leicestershire. George Holmes. Son. 11. Scholar. b. Ibstock. Leicestershire. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2004. 1851. INDEX ONLY Census returns. Vol. 1. INDEX No. 415. = Ibstock. HOLMES. Thomas. 14. Elizabeth. 41. Simon. 15. William. 12 JOHN. 8. George. 1. Index No. 415. = Ibstock. KELLAM. Ernest. 9. Patience. 7. William. 8. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2003. 1841. Scanned Image :- HO 107 / 601. / Folder. 10. / Page. 17. Ibstock Main Street. Thomas Holmes. Head. 30. Miner. Elizabeth. 30. Simon. 5. William. 2. All born within the County. © Crown Copyright National Archives. MIKE.

Hiya Mike, could you please search for a Thomas Holmes b.1811 and his wife Elizabeth b. 1810 Both Born In Ibstock, (or so it says on 1871 census) were living in Ashby de la Zouch at the time of census, If its not too much trouble, You have already looked for John Holmes/Fanny Robinson for me but I still cant find them, Could you please give me some pointers as where to look next for them??? Am trying this Thomas to see if its possible that it's his father, Would be ever so grateful if you could help/advise hopefully Julie :)

' Your very Welcome Sarah ....' Just mind how you go lighting the gas stove tomorrow !!! Or hanging out your washing ? MIKE.

Oh GREAT!! Those 'Stanifords' just have to be mine!! Accidentally burnt to death?? And another strangulation/hanging to add to the collection, thats 4 in this line now....... Why did my family keep getting killed/kill themselves?! (I wonder?!) Thanks as always Mike, and please re consider your decision not to swap trees with me?! Sarah

Greeting’s Again Sarah…. 1851. Index ONLY Census returns. Vol. 6. Index No. 526. = Earl Shilton. STANIFORD. James. 26. Ann. 23. NO James under surname of STANIFORTH. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2003. 1861. Scanned Census Image. RG 9 / 2262 / Folder. 72. / Page.2. Earl Shilton. High Street. James Staniforth. Head. Mar. 36. Stocking Frame Knitter. Elizabeth. Wife. 22. Ditto. Mary. Dau. 9. Seamer. Eliza J. Dau. 5. b. Hinckley. Annie. Mary. Dau. 1 Month Old. Daniel Langham. Umar. Lodger. 26. Stocking Knitter. b Leicester. All born Earl Shilton other than those stated otherwise. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2004. (Those of a nervous disposition skip the next bit ) Burials for Earl Shilton :- STAINFORD WILLIAM 5 FEB 1862 42 STANIFORD MARY 1 MAY 1836 54 (WHO WAS ACCIDENTALLY BURNT TO DEATH STANIFORD JOHN 13 NOV 1851 53 (STRANGLED HIMSELF) STANIFORD EMMA 30 SEP 1856 24 STANIFORTH JOHN 28 OCT 1847 23 STANIFORTH WILLIAM 18 MAR 1855 7MTHS STANIFORTH EMILY 17 JUN 1863 9WKS STANNFORTH SARAH 28 FEB 1819 59 WIFE OF SAMUEL STANNIFORTH THOMAS 25 FEB 1817 52 (BACHELOR) STANNIFORTH DANIEL 24 FEB 1828 7MTHS STANNIFORTH RICHARD 12 MAY 1836 14 STANNIFORTH SAMUEL 16 JUN 1839 6MTHS STANNIFORTH JAMES 27 APR 1841 9MTHS STANNIFORTH SAMUEL 28 NOV 1841 80 STANNIFORTH MARY 8 MAY 1844 15 © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2003. So if I’ve not found two James then you maybe right that it’s the same bloke….. There was another James but too young (11) and he was in Ashby De La Zouch. (Wheel barrows not let down the mines ) well not those with squeaky wheels that is If he was in the Army then don’t think I’ll find him on the 1841 Census….. MIKE.

Sarah are you saying i have got convicts in my tree lol thanks will have a look Bev

http://members*lycos*co*uk/larpindex/home*php This is a good Leicester site. Lists some of my pauper/convict (and 1 soldier) ancestors, so may have yours too? Remove * and replace with . Sarah

Hi Sarah No ive not got passed William yet ive been doing some on other side Bev

Hi Mike! Could I ask for a lookup on your 51/61 records or deaths (1825-29) for a James Staniforth? I have one born 1825, and a military record for one who seems to have been born 1829 (discharged in 1849). Knowing my lot, its likely the older died and the next was named after him, but its possible it was the same one and they didn't know their ages. Of course, they were from Earl Shilton (this was before wheelbarrows made their way into the county!!) Thanks luvvie! Sarah Bev, have you moved on with the HINCKS yet?!

Mike, Beverley Thanks for your efforts. The Walnut Street entry is defiitely not mine - doesn't feel right and all the names are wrong. The other two are 'maybes' but at least I have something to start with. Still looking for William and Joseph Goadby aged 9 and 7. I'm also looking at my husband's family from time to time. His uncle's response - 'But his mother's done all that!' Had to explain to him that you never get finished. Cheers Sheila

Hello Mike Thank you so much for looking for me, that is definitely them on the 1861 census, I'm hoping they are all connected somehow, I'm just going to study your findings. I appreciate your help Mike Regards Tracey

Greeting's Again Tracey.... Oh My...... how many ways to spell Joseph's surname..... Sorry not found the marriage YET..... The Only Linthwaite / Linwhite / Lintwait..found on the 1841. Census :- HO 107 / 601 / 06 / Page . 6. Hinckley. Stockwell Head. Mathew Johnson. 37. Stocking Maker. born within the County. Maria Ditto. 35. Jane. 12. Mary Linthwaite. 50. Not born within the County. (Living with above) HO 107 / 601 / 05. / Page. 27. Hinckley. New Building's. (Name of Road.) John Linwhite. 30. Stocking Maker. Thomas Ditto. 45. Mary. Ditto. 80. All born within the County. Ho 107 / 601./ 05. / Page. ? Hinckley. Castle Street. Edward Lintwait. 45. Stocking Maker. born within the County. © Crown Copyright National Archives. 1851. INDEX ONLY Census. Vol. 5. Index No. 153. = Hinckley. LINTWAITE. John. 75. Elizabeth. 75. Index No. 348. = Hinckley. LINTHWAITE. Edward. 55. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2003. BUT all is not lost I've got them on the 1861. Census :- RG 9 / 2260 / Folder. 86. / Page 7. Hinckley. Upper Bond Street. Joseph LINTWHITE.Head. Mar. 31. Cotton Stocking Maker. Maria. Wife. 31. Ditto. John. Son. 9. Cotton Winder. Eliza. Dau. 7. Stocking Seamer. Samuel. Son. 2. Scholar. All Born in Hinckley. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2004. So going on the age of the eldest Child the marriage could be 1852 . ? I'm over at the Records Office next week.... and yes I'm looking for ' RINGROSE'S ' ...again ...lol :0) Watch this space then ..... MIKE.

Hi sheila I dont know if this is right Annie Smith Married Samuel Riley Leicester 1883 Dec 7a 474 Beverly

Or this one as a SMITH ? :- 1881. Dwelling: 94 Northampton St Census Place: Leicester St Margaret, Leicester, England Source: FHL Film 1341754 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3160 Folio 98 Page 19 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Charles H. SMITH M 45 M Leicester, England Rel: Head Occ: Pressman (Shoe) Ann SMITH M 34 F Leicester, England Rel: Wife © Crown Copyright National Archives. Ann didn't show up has either a Riley or Bodycote MIKE.

Greeting's Again Sheila..... Have we looked at the below before ? :- 1881. Census. Dwelling: 49 Walnut St Census Place: Leicester St Mary, Leicester, England Source: FHL Film 1341757 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3173 Folio 121 Page 16 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Mary CLEMENTS W 67 F South Croxton, Leicester, England Rel: Head Occ: Dispensers Widow Sam CLEMENTS U 23 M Leicester, England Rel: Son Occ: Clicker Shoe Trade Kate CLEMENTS U 29 F Leicester, England Rel: Daur Occ: Dressmaker Sarah CLEMENTS U 27 F Leicester, England Rel: Daur Occ: Machinist Shoe * Annie GOADBY M 32 F Leicester, England Rel: Daur Occ: Commercial Travellers Wife Alice M. GOADBY 1 F Leicester, England Rel: Grand Daur. © Crown Copyright National Archives. But don't understand her being a Daughter to Head of househould though. Or was she going to be a Clement in 1881. re Sam and Alice is his daughter? MIKE.

Ey up Mike I can't stay away. Have tackled my Goadbys again today. Some time ago you were able to give me the following marriage and death entries: St. Margaret's Church Leicester. Entry No.122, DEC 22, 1867, after Banns JOSEPH GOADBY, 22, bach. RIVETER, of PINGLE St, s. of JOSEPH GOADBY, FWK ANN BODYCOTE, 19, sp. of WILLOW St, d. of CHARLES BODYCOTE, FWK Wits: THOMAS GOADBY, SARAH GOADBY. and Welford Road Cemetery :- Names. / Dates. / Age. / Last known address./ Parish Area. C = Consecrated Ground. N = Section. 175. = Plot No. C = Common Land. 19001. = Burial No. GOADBY JOSEPH 14 SEP 1877 32 PALMERSTON STREET SAINT MARGARET PARISH C N 175 C 19001 I have made considerable progress now and know that Ann Goadby had two further relationships after Joseph's death, to a Mr Smith, by whom she had a son Arthur born about 1882 and to a Mr Riley, by whom she had a daugher Annie born about 1886. In the 1891 and 1901 censuses she described herself as married and gives the names Smith and Riley respectively, but there is no sign of the husbands. I've looked at the 1837 site without any great success. Do you by any chance have marriage entries? In summary she was Goadby in 1871, Smith in 1891 and Riley in 1901. Can't find her at all under any name on the 1881. Cheers Mike Sheila

Hi Mike Thanks but youve already done him for me before for 1861 and hes living at home with parents aged 16 ,so his birth would have been around 1845 Beverly

Greeting's Again Beverly..... Have you the Husbands Name and approx. age. and I'll see if I can find him ..... MIKE.

Thanks Mike I know she had her first child Hunslet York 1867 so probably they moved. Somebody else who is also researching that part gave me her maiden name off one of childs Birth certificates. Her husband came from Leicester and also it says on census she was from leicester anway thanks again Bev

Greeting’s Beverly….. This is the closest Age not a complete match though ? 1851. Census. 2088 / 53 /16 / 70. Leicester. St Margaret’s Parish. Sub District :- St. John’s 29, Slawson Street. ANN RILEY HEAD Umar 30 F NEEDLEWORK LEI KEYHAM SARAH ANN RILEY DAU U 9 F LEI LEICESTER © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2001. Do they move out of the County after 1851 ? NO match on either names or ages on the 1861. MIKE.