Genealogy Chat

Hello again... Pushing my luck but no hurry! I am hoping to find the family of Henry Cherry on the 1841. In 1851 Henrywould be round about 25. Wife Eliza also 25 and son Henry 2. All born in Leicester. Dare I be cheeky enough to say thank you in advance? Alice Thank you again Mike, have just seen your last reply. i will have to order certificate as you suggest - but it does seem that the marriage in Blaby is probably right.

Greeting's Again Alice...... Sorry my County wedding disks stop by 1837. Are you trying to find out the maiden Name of the Ann ? ( It was transcribed as Anni on the Index but on the original Image it's ANN and ANN.A. for the daughter.) Having look at the original Image for 1871. which you gave the details of I see that there is a Son Arthur aged 9. so if you ordered his birth Certificate then that will tell you the name of Mother ..... Birth. April.~Mar.~May. Qrt. 1869. Arthur Smith. Blaby. Cert No. 7 a. 41. To find the marriage would be a big task due to the common Christan & surname of John and Ann....... But if that cert is the right one then that would give you a fighting chance to then find the marriage knowing Ann's maiden name. MIKE.

Yipee! all 3 children there so I guess it must be the right marriage! Will be back in a while - Alice

I have loads to do! You will be fed up with me..... Alice

Greeting's again Alice...... ' Your very Welcome '..... Your not leaving now are you ? ....Snif Sniff ... MIKE.

Hello again Mike - Do you have Leicestershire marriages? I am looking for the same John marrying an Anni their first child was born in 1864. I do have a marriage on the IGI 1862 but it says she is from Blaby (which is what it says on the 1871 census) but it says he is born in foleshill Warwick 1840. He is 29 on the 1872 and says he is born in Wigston. What do you think? Their first 3 children were born in Blaby IGI not always accurate. Can you check on your marriage for me . According to IGI she was Ann Meshurst. Idea! I will just see if I can find the children born in Blaby! That will answer question.... Alice

Thank you Mike. You are a star! I reckon it is him the dates are pretty close - Thank you for all the help you have given me. Alice

Greeting's Again Alice... Out of the 11 possibilities of a John Smith C 1842.ish and born in Wigston ... My Best shot is as follows :- 1861.Scanned Census images (which would give personal details) 1861. RG 9 2255. / Folder. 31. / Page. 3. Wigston Magna. Bell Street. William Smith. Head. Mar. 45. Ag. Lab. b Wigston. Mary. Wife. 40. Ag. lab's Wife. b. Langhton Leicestershire. JOHN SMITH. Son. 22. Frame Work Knitter. b. Wigston. Thomas. Son. 15. Winder of Worster. b. Wigston. George. Son. 7. Scholar. b. Wigston. Eliza. dau. 1. b. Wigston. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2004. ( the others didn't have Wigston as birth place.) I realise that the age is not quite right but.... Hey Ho.... MIKE.

Greeting's Again Margaret... ' Your very Welcome ' ' Good here ain't it ' ....lol :0)) MIKE.

Hi Mike Once again the super star. Obviously Sarah MILLARD. The 1861 details will greatly impress my second cousin once removed in Canada. The following Dawes info 1881 is exactly right. I will email her and your fame will grow world wide. Thanks Margaret

If anyone fancies a challenge: I hardly dare ask! Can anyone do a 1861/51/ look up for John Smith I know this is stretching things a bit far but I am looking for John Smith born Wigston Magna Leicestershire about 1842. He is on the IGI but (would you believe?) No parents listed. Thank you to anyone brave enough to help! Alice

Hello Mike, Thank you for your reply. I think she was Appleby magna. Last night I found an ann on IGI born 1808, father william Mother Mary. Obviously I was dozy and desperate last night I know she married in 1830's Birmingham ! (it was past 12!) Any sign of William and Mary? I am now nearly fully awake - But Smiths are soooo confusing and I have 3 unrelated branches in my tree already. including a John Smith.... I also have lots of cherry relatives - will look up details before I post. Hope you don't mind helping.. A Alice

Greeting's & Welcome Alice..... Now there are two Appleby's .... Appleby Magna. and Appleby Parva.... But the Parva Village although in Leicestershire came under South Derbyshire on early Census... Due to the early dates given it would mean that your Anne Smith would be approx 31. and so could well be married and have changed her surname...... Plus compulsory recording of births didn't become Law it 1837...so any records would be under a 'Christening' and these would be in the Parish Records So to find these Christening records you will have to trawl through the Parish Records on fiches at the Records Office at Wigston or your might be able to order them through a Latter Day Saints Family History Centre at a cost of £2.70.p. per fiches but there will be a five day working day notice required but they are held for you for 28 days.... But I've had a look on the 1841. census returns images for Appleby Magna The following are the Smith's in Appleby Magna 1841. :- HO 107/600/01/ Page 11. ' Over Street.' Ann Smith. 85. Pauper Widow. born within the County. also on the same page Eliza Smith. 11. born within the County. Farm Servant to William Laband. 60. Farmer. Page 10. 'Over Street.' George Smith. 18. NOT born within the County. Farm servant to James Wyatt's 76. Farmer. Page. 6. 'Over Town Street.' Hannah Smith. 17. born within the County. Female servant to James Arnold. 40. Farmer. © Crown Copyright National Archives. Marriages found within a few miles radius of Appleby.:- Anne Smith. ~ Thomas Wetton. Nether seal. 1832. By Banns. Anne Smith. ~ George Cooper. Norton-Juxta-Twycross. 1833. By Banns. Anne Smith ~ Stephen Sheeton. Market Bosworth. 1833. By Licence. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2002. MIKE.

Greeting's Margaret..... Oh My....The plot thickens... 1851. INDEX ONLY Census. Vol. 12. Ashby De La Zouch. Index No. 530. MILLWARD. Thomas. 39. Mary. 33. John. 15. William. 14. Ann. 12. Mary. 10. Alice. 7. Thomas. 4. FREDERICK. 2. And in Diseworth. Vol. 20. Index. N. 240. Joseph. MILLWOOD. 67. (which could be Thomas's Father.) © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2003. So we now have Millard, Millward, Millwood. You want the coin to toss up with ? MIKE.

I have a few rellies in Leicestershire - Cherrys and (dare I say!) Smiths. My current brick wall is Anne Smith born in Appleby in 1810 ish. I would love more details about her as she is my gggggrandmother. Thanks for any help alice

Back Again... It's MILLARD...... 1861. Scanned census Image. RG 9. / 2269. / Folder. 89. / Page. 13. Ashby De La Zouch. Off market Street. ' Turks Head Yard.' Thomas MILLARD. Head. Mar. 49. Shoe Maker. b. Diseworth. Leicestershire. Mary. Wife. 43. b. Swepstone , Leicestershire. Frederick Son. 12. Scholar. b. Ashby De La Zouch. Leicestershire. SARAH. Dau. 6. Scholar. b. Ashby De La Zouch. Louisa. Dau. 3. Scholar. b. Ashby De La Zouch. © Copyright Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.2004. There was NO SARAH MILLWARD on the 1861. Census... MIKE.

Greeting's Margaret..... I think this is the couple on the 1881.Census.... Dwelling: Hill St Census Place: Church Gresley, Derby, England Source: FHL Film 1341660 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2757 Folio 16 Page 25 Marr Age Sex Birthplace James DAWES M 55 M Swadlincote, Derby, England Rel: Head Occ: Bricklayers Labourer Hannah DAWES M 55 F Swadlincote, Derby, England Rel: Wife Elijah DAWES U 19 M Swadlincote, Derby, England Rel: Son Occ: Coal Miner John H. DAWES U 16 M Swadlincote, Derby, England Rel: Son Occ: Pipe Bend Maker Terra Cotta Wks George DAWES U 13 M Swadlincote, Derby, England Rel: Son Occ: Labourer Brick Works William HINDER M 25 M Mandwick, Gloucester, England Rel: Son In Law Occ: Labourer Brick Works Edith HINDER M 21 F Swadlincote, Derby, England Rel: Daur James W. HINDER U 10 m M Swadlincote, Derby, England Rel: Grandson James DAWES M 28 M Swadlincote, Derby, England Rel: Head Occ: Coal Miner Sarah DAWES M 26 F Ashby, Leicester, England Rel: Wife Occ: Wool Worker. © Crown Copyright National Archives. Now I have some info to work on I'll see what I can come up with on earlier census... MIKE.

Youve cracked it Margaret Beverly

Hi Mike. Different family request. Long lost relative in Vancouver been in touch. Need to verify a name spelling. My relation JAMES DAWES born 1853 in Swadlincote married SARAH MILLWARD OR MILLARD who was from Leicestershire. They married 31.10.1876 so my Canadian cousin says. Could you check and give me any details you can about Sarah Millward or Millard. I can't trace a marriage in Derbyshire. Thanks Margaret. Ps makes a change from searching for EDWARD Heawood.

To be nudged in front of part 4. Hope this is right. Margaret