Genealogy Chat

As today is the 120th anniversary of Hannah's marriage, I thought I'd offer her to the board again.... I now have access to Ancestry but still can't find her origins. Any thoughts? Gwyn

gwyn, I know what you mean, I have several Lines on the go, and getting no-where fast with ANY of them. There is ONE good thing though, When I shuffle off, my kids will have a heck of alot to go at :)) Kids are- Dana-Elise, nearly 5 going on 55 Isaac Byron, Just turned 1 Me, Well, A tired 38yr old, (But Still ticking away) Julie :)

Thank you for the 1871 household Julie. Nothing conclusive there, is there? Jim Welcome aboard! Thank you for trying to help. Your information would give Hannah yet another birth county. You see the problem I'm having! The VERITY family look more 'upper crust' and this would fit with the VERITY signature but Catherine REES and Hannah just making their mark at Hannah's marriage. I might be completely off track though. I am really grateful to you all for taking the time to help solve the puzzle of Hannah's origins. I'm tempted to hand her over to my cousin in Wales and let him search. It's his directline ancestor. I hate being beaten though.

This is right age as 1901 1881 Wales Census Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Residence View Image Hannah Parry abt 1867 Llandovery, Carmarthenshire, Wales Servant 12 Harries St, Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales

Is this your two witnesses? 1871 Wales Census Viewing records 1-8 of 8 matches « Global Search Results Name Estimated Birth Year Birthplace Relationship Civil Parish or Township County/Island View Image Catherine Rees 1826 Merthyr-Mawr, Glamorgan, Wales Servant Coity Glamorgan Abraham John Verity 1820 Bridgend, Glamorgan, Wales Head Coity Glamorgan Anne Verity 1823 Merthyr-Mawr, Glamorgan, Wales Wife Coity Glamorgan Anne Tereresa Verity 1866 Bridgend, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Coity Glamorgan Catherine Ann Verity 1846 Bridgend, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Coity Glamorgan Charles Fred Verity 1862 Bridgend, Glamorgan, Wales Son Coity Glamorgan Graham Martin Verity 1868 Bridgend, Glamorgan, Wales Son Coity Glamorgan Jessie Lucy Verity 1858 Bridgend, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Coity Glamorgan

Ann Parry 1841 Letterston, Pembrokeshire, Wales Daughter Mathry Pembrokeshire Hanah Parry 1866 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Granddaughter Mathry Pembrokeshire William Parry 1802 Little Newcastle, Pembrokeshire, Wales Head Mathry Pembrokeshire William Parry 1869 Mathry, Pembrokeshire, Wales Grandson Mathry Pembrokeshire this is the one i should have put up Julie :)

Ann Parry 1866 Llanfigan, Breconshire, Wales Daughter Llanfigan and Pencelli Breconshire Evan Parry 1823 Llanhamlach, Breconshire, Wales Head Llanfigan and Pencelli Breconshire Jennet Parry 1830 Talyllyn, Breconshire, Wales Wife Llanfigan and Pencelli Breconshire Jennet Parry 1852 Llanhamlach, Breconshire, Wales Daughter Llanfigan and Pencelli Breconshire dont know if it'll be much help, but here it is Julie :) ooops wrong one duh!!

Julie Who is in the 1871 household with Hanah, the grandaughter in Mathry please? ...... really clutching straws here but Alfred's cousin, Thomas JONES (yes that's right) married a girl from Mathry, so I just wondered.....

Thank you Jess and Julie I can't find Hannah nearby either. When I received a copy of Hannah's marriage certificate almost 4 years ago, I thought the T. VERITY witness might be a lead, - VERITY being a more unusual name for the area. .... I've been looking off and on ever since... Catherine REES signed with a cross, T.VERITY signed so I am still drawn to the 1881 group that Jess posted.

hiya Gwyn, am just trying to think of 'pet' names, and spelling variants to see if we can crack this nut, very inconsiderate of our rellies to be so hard to find :))) Julie :)

Name: Hanah Parry Age in 1871: 5 Estimated birth year: 1866 Relation: Granddaughter Household: View other family members Gender: Female Where born: Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Civil Parish or Township: Mathry Ecclesiastical parish: St David County/Island: Pembrokeshire Country: Wales Street address: View Image Condition as to marriage: View Image Education: View Image Employment status: View Image Occupation: View Image Source information: RG10/5532 Registration district: Haverfordwest Sub-registration district: St David ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Folio: 33 Page: 8 (click to see others on page) Household schedule number: 39 looking on variants now Julie :)

Thank you Julie. It's very kind of you to search for me. I don't know if Hannah could be Ann. Anything is possible. Everywhere I have her documented she is shown as Hannah, (1891, 1901, her 1886 marriage certificate and birth certificate of her son Daniel DAVIES in January 1895) If only she'd had a daughter we might have a clue to her mother's name.

this is that 1881 lot Mary Jones abt 1867 Maesteg, Glamorgan, Wales Servant 27 Dunraven Place, Coyty Lower, Glamorgan, Wales Catherine Rees abt 1825 Merthyrmawr, Glamorgan, Wales Servant 27 Dunraven Place, Coyty Lower, Glamorgan, Wales Alice C. Smith abt 1850 Bridgend, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter 27 Dunraven Place, Coyty Lower, Glamorgan, Wales John V. Smith abt 1850 Tre..., Glamorgan, Wales Son in Law 27 Dunraven Place, Coyty Lower, Glamorgan, Wales Abraham J. Verity abt 1819 Bridgend, Glamorgan, Wales Head 27 Dunraven Place, Coyty Lower, Glamorgan, Wales Anne Verity abt 1822 Merthyr Mawr, Glamorgan, Wales Wife 27 Dunraven Place, Coyty Lower, Glamorgan, Wales Annie T. Verity abt 1866 Bridgend, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter 27 Dunraven Place, Coyty Lower, Glamorgan, Wales Charles F. Verity abt 1862 Bridgend, Glamorgan, Wales Son 27 Dunraven Place, Coyty Lower, Glamorgan, Wales Graham M. Verity abt 1868 Bridgend, Glamorgan, Wales Son 27 Dunraven Place, Coyty Lower, Glamorgan, Wales Jessie L. Verity abt 1858 Bridgend, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter 27 Dunraven Place, Coyty Lower, Glamorgan, Cant see a Hannah in the vicinity tho - given that one is listed as servant and the other is wife to head I wonder if hannah was employed there prior to marriage?

Hiya Gwyn, have been searching alot with your problem could this be a possiblity?????? I'll save image is 1871 census Julie :) Ann Parry 1866 Llanfigan, Breconshire, Wales Daughter Llanfigan and Pencelli Breconshire Evan Parry 1823 Llanhamlach, Breconshire, Wales Head Llanfigan and Pencelli Breconshire Jennet Parry 1830 Talyllyn, Breconshire, Wales Wife Llanfigan and Pencelli Breconshire Jennet Parry 1852 Llanhamlach, Breconshire, Wales Daughter

Thank you Jess, I was busy typing. As you say, No Edgar so I'm not sure really. I've just searched the 1881 discs again and nothing points to any particular Hannah, given the new possible lead. Are you able to view the 1881 image please? When Hannah married in Bridgend, the witnesses were Catherine REES and T. VERITY. On the 1881 discs I have noted a household that contains these names, -almost. At 27 Dunraven Place, Coyty Lower is an Annie T. VERITY and a Catherine REES and I wondered whether Hannah was there too on the actual image.

I cant find an Edgar Parry in Breconshire, thats whats bugging me!! jess x

Thank you
I have nothing to 'attach' her to at that time.

Yesterday you kindly looked in 1871 for her father Edgar PARRY, a carpenter but didn't see him and you posted that when searching 1871 for Hannah PARRY you didn't find any of the right age b. Glamorgan,- only Anglesea, Brecon and Flint.

As she has 'changed' birthplace, the Brecon information looks promising.
One of her sons was called Edgar, so maybe she had a brother Edgar PARRY too.
I know so little about her and am seeking a family to research but finding obstacles at every corner.
Thank you for your help.

1871 born breconshire: still dont think it right- William not Edgar! David Parry 1864 Devynock, Breconshire, Wales Son Ystradgynlais Breconshire Hannah Parry 1867 Ystradgunlais, Breconshire, Wales Daughter Ystradgynlais Breconshire Jennet Parry 1834 Devynock, Breconshire, Wales Wife Ystradgynlais Breconshire Margaret Parry 1869 Ystradgynlais, Breconshire, Wales Daughter Ystradgynlais Breconshire William Parry 1827 Devynock, Breconshire, Wales Head Ystradgynlais Breconshire

can you post the one you have, so we have other names to look for please

Lo and behold. As if I haven't got enough to confuse this search, - In 1891 Hannah's birthplace is shown as Breconshire.She is age 24 (so b. c.1866) Is anyone able to look for her in 1871 census please, using Breconshire, rather than the b.Glamorgan information?