Genealogy Chat

Forgot to say - there were so many Yates in Darwen that they named an area after them - Yate Bank, now known as Yate with Pickupbank. It holds the world record for the greatest number of administration District changes over the centuries! (That is MY statistic, folks - having waded through the records Blackburn, Accrington, Whalley, Preston and YORKSHIRE for events happening in this tiny place) Olde Crone

Hey, Marjorie, do you want another Green for your saga? Fanny, born somewhere in the Macclesfield-ish sort of area in 1858. Father James was a gamekeeper (oooh, Lady Chatterley!). Fanny married my great-great uncle, bumped off his first-born by his first wife, disposed of g-g-uncle then produced a child and put his name on birth cert. Gave said child away. Produced 2 more definitely illegitimate children by man who she gave child number 1 to. Great great uncle disappeared into thin air - probably buried under the patio. Any use to you? Tina PS There may be just a very, very little poetic licence used in the above description!

This thread is brilliant. Loads of laughs and brilliant research. Congratulations to Marji's team LOL Jan xx

I've been looking for that flippin Yates Yates too - there are loads of them - how stupid! Marj sounds suspiciously like a certain Hyacynth Bucket!

The day you get a ''Rathbeaune Rathbeaune'' in your tree is the day I resign from these boards (have just been reading about ''Yates Yates''!) Sounds like he may be the ''Mr Darcy'' of your novel-in-the-making?? MMM (alias Sarah)

GGGrrrrrr- woof woof!

Elizabeth I really don't know where my Personal Research Team get their information from - One is a fervent delegator and One trusts Ones Team to know how to do their thing. After all, why have a dog and bark yourself? (Ooooooo, I may have gone too far, bet that's the last info they ever find for me!) Olde Crone, distantly related to the Rathbeaunes(so much nicer spelling, don't you think?)

A very entertaining thread.Brought a few laughs!!!Dare I ask....Who was Rathbone? May I also,while I'm here,compliment you all for the kind of help you give each other.Where do you's get the information from that you's can answer back and forth like that ? Elizabeth.

This is a brilliant research thread . Not only humour but lots of results as well. It was a pleasure to read. Susan

It's like that Mrs Merton comment, ''And so, Debbie McGee, what attracted you to the millionaire, Paul Daniels??''!! Yes, I'm sure his saw would be the thing??!!! At least he wasn't a beaver blower??! Sarah

Sarah LOL! I worded that in a rather Freudian way, didnt I? (All will be revealed in Chapter 48, Book 2 when Samuel shows Maria his ch..., no, perhaps not, Samuel shows Maria his saw.) Olde Crone

If Maria married ''deeply beneath herself'', then I wonder what attribute attracted her to Mr Green??!! Sarah

This thread is just what GR should be about. Fun, whilst trying to sort out ancestry minefields. I think we are all serious about our research, but I for one would go completely round the bend without the humour and of course, all the lovely people who help. Jo x

Oh God, no, don't laugh please anybody, we will all be expelled..... Sarah, Fascinating stuff re the Rathbones - explains all the high-falutin' names ol' Sam and Maria gave their kids; she obviously married deeply beneath herself. Well, what with that info, and the fact that the Holdens owned about a third of Lancashire at one time AND being related to Christ, I think we can overlook the mucky Traffords, don't you? (This may have to be a three-part saga, in hardback of course). Thanks also for the Prestbury Church info - yet another whacking great PR to look through! Olde Crone

Brilliant thread, I've really enjoyed reading it. Marjorie, I am jealous, I'd love to see hedgehogs in the garden. Heather

Well, I can't believe it: This flippin' Maria Rathbone and her spinster sister come from Gawsworth. Now read this: The University of Liverpool, Special Collections Library: http://sca.lib.liv.ac.uk/collections/rathbone/rath1.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ THE RATHBONE FAMILY The Rathbones of Liverpool were a family of non-conformist merchants and shipowners, whose sense of high social consciousness led to a fine tradition of philanthropy and public service. The Rathbone's family's origins are traced to Gawsworth, near Macclesfield, where the 'first' William Rathbone was born in 1669. It was his son, William Rathbone II, born on 22 May 1696, that left Gawsworth for the growing port of Liverpool where he worked as a sawyer and, it appears, established a timber business. His son, William Rathbone III, developed the business during the eighteenth century, whilst also establishing an international merchanting concern. These early business ventures were the beginnings which led, after a series of partnerships, to the creation of Rathbone Brothers and Co. in 1824 - an illustrious Liverpool merchanting firm which involved the energies of several members of the Rathbone family, through the generations, as partners. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ So, Marjory, how does it feel to have Rathbone's from Gawsworth on your tree???? There was a lot more than the above, but it was the first sentence of that 2nd paragraph that got me going! lol Will we have to bow and scrape from now on?? (though we were doing that already of course!) Hope the hedgehogs are doing OK? If they are sunbathing I hope you are using a high factor sunscreen on their prickles??? Don't want to read about roasted hedgehogs in the paper tomorrow..... Sarah

Sorry I was so long, I have to water the garden by hand as I have four hedgehogs living in the flowerbed (Henry, Harriet, Prickles and Pickles, if you are interested). The last time I used the hose I almost sent Pickles into orbit, not knowing he was there, you understand. I thought I had killed him so rushed to get some gardening gloves and one of those thingies from a first aid kit for giving mouth to mouth (because Hedgehogs often carry the meningitis bacteria, not cos I was going to kiss him) but by the time I got back in all my nursie gear he had recovered. Since then I have to be very careful, trickling water very slowly and making anxious twittering noises: 'Pickles! Pickles! Look out, I'm going to water just here' (I thought hedgehogs were supposed to be nocturnal? Mine sunbathe on the lawn in the middle of the afternoon). Ooops, getting off the point here...TIP: Hedgehogs do not like being sprayed with garden hoses. Well, off to put my Green Salad proudly onto Genes. The book may be a little while in the writing. Well done again to my Personal Research Team! Olde Crone

lol Lady L! From Genuki: PRESTBURY A township in Prestbury Parish, Macclesfield Hundred (SJ 9078). The civil parish was extended in 1936 to include the whole of Butley and Fallibroome. Includes the hamlets of Bradley Mount and Withinlee (part). The population was 466 in 1801, 373 in 1851, 291 in 1901 and 1693 in 1951. CHURCHES AND CHAPELS Prestbury, St. Peter (C of E). A very large ancient parish, originally serving the townships of Adlington, Birtles, Bollington (near Macclesfield), Bosley, Butley, Capesthorne, Chelford, Fallibroome, Henbury cum Pexall, Hurdsfield, Kettleshulme, Lower Withington, Lyme Handley, Macclesfield, Macclesfield Forest, Marton (near Congleton), Mottram St. Andrew, Newton (near Prestbury), North Rode, Old Withington, Pott Shrigley, Poynton, Prestbury, Rainow, Siddington, Sutton (near Macclesfield), Tytherington, Upton (near Macclesfield), Wildboarclough, Wincle, Woodford and Worth. The original registers from 1560 are still held at the church, but registers of Baptisms 1560-1990, Marriages 1560-1969 and Burials 1560-1978 can be viewed on microfilm at the Cheshire Record Office ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ''So, Marjorie Rathbone, how did you feel when you saw your first novel, Fields of Green, at the No 1 spot on the bestsellers list?''...... 'Well, I knew I couldn't have done it without my junior research team, Jess and some other girl (!?), I forget her name now, so I have decided to award them an enormous slice of the royalties for this and all my soon-to-be-published works, the first of which is being proof read by my GenesReunited editing team as we speak.....'' Happy Hunting! Sarah

PMSL Jess! Thought I saw Marjorie pass my house about an hour ago, Im sure it was her with a watering can at her side, or was it her handbag! Lib

So glad you came back Marj - we were getting worried that you'd got lost watering the estate,!