Genealogy Chat

that looks quite like it could be them. James Hara was a brush maker. And of course their children were Thomas b 1872, ann born 1874 and robert born 1883 that i have found so far. and the other children seem to be duplicated on other census forms too. just had a look..... yes that is them , It definately says Hara on the census form but i suppose it could be mistaken for Hard. thank you very much. Ann

nudge as i still need to find them in 1881. thanks for any help.

Marlene gave you them above

god i think i need my glasses on...... doh..... your right.... it does look like it could be him where would rest of them be.... doh found them before of course..... how is it you cant see the wood for the trees... lol....... still need to find them in 1881 though...... any suggestions gratefully received..... do you think its catching , he was my great great grandfather through blood lines.... pmsl

he also had a sister called margaret according to the 1861 census so maybe she married a henderson?

No Ann he wasn't dead he died in 1896 I gave you the census for him in 1891 I think it was him Maybee the matron was henderson?

my problem with him being in the institution is i know he was dead by then. so it must be a cousin or something i guess

the maguire name is interesting too..... i know there were maguires in the family, my grandma had a cousin with that name. i wonder who margaret henderson was then

No Henderson tho'

1901 census the family Margret Hara abt 1849 Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England Mother Byker Northumberland Robt A Hara abt 1883 Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England Brother Byker Northumberland Thos Jobson Hara abt 1871 Newcastle on Tyne, Northumberland, England Head Byker Northumberland

This looks like daughter's marriage Name: Hara, Margaret Bowey J Record Type: Marriages Quarter: March Year: 1899 District: Newcastle upon Tyne County: Northumberland Volume: 10b Collins, Thomas 1899 March Marriages Newcastle upon Tyne Northumberland Downey, Winifred 1899 March Marriages Newcastle upon Tyne Northumberland Hara, Margaret Bowey J 1899 March Marriages Newcastle upon Tyne Northumberland Maguire, Thomas Edward 1899 March Marriages Newcastle upon Tyne Northumberland

Well it looks like they definately had a domestic servant in the early days and then the poor man was ill by 1891 and had to go into an institution It looks like it was certainly him

yup, i have the cert for that and as i say his death which was attendedby his daughter margaret, well i think its his daughter. She is down as margaret henderson.

Here is his marriage Hara, Alexander Record Type: Marriages Quarter: September Year: 1869 District: Newcastle upon Tyne County: Northumberland Volume: 10b Hara, Alexander 1869 September Marriages Newcastle upon Tyne Northumberland Jobson, Margaret Bowie 1869 September Marriages Newcastle upon Tyne Northumberland

oh yvonne, this is interesting.... he was a butcher too.....

yvonne, no i'm sure thats not my gg grandfather as i have his death cert for 16 june 1896. Thats not to say it isnt a rellie to my haras though. they all love naming each other after other family members. Very confusing. Thanks though. I will have a look out of curiosity. I am sick of getting O haras up when i know we had no O. At least at this time. Ann

yes marlene that is my lot as i understand it . Alexander was dead by 1891. They also had 2 children Thomas and Robert Alexander who both died age 0. Rather sad. I dont have the Ellen though so will have to have another look.

well i had a look and it does seem quite possible. He was a butcher journey man as i had known before. That meaning he was qualified and went about working as and where required on a paid by the day basis. (or so i understand) maybe he had big ideas in 1871.

Possibly this could be him poor man in 1891 1891 England Census Record about Alex Hara Name: Hara, Alex Age: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1851 Relation: Inmate Gender: Male Where Born: N C, Northumberland Birth Country: England Civil parish: Coxlodge Ecclesiastical parish: Gosforth Town: Coxlodge County/Island: Northumberland Street address: View Image Condition as to marriage: View Image Education: View Image Employment status: View Image Occupation: View Image Source information: RG12/4241 Registration district: Castle Ward Sub registration district: Ponteland ED, institution, or vessel: Newcastle upon Tyne City Lunatic Asylum Folio: 115 Page: 18 (click to see others on page) GSU Number: 6099351 View original image View blank form

oh dont know.... will have to have a look. i would be amazed if they had a servant. but that would be interesting. thanks