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Unknown Report 29 Oct 2005 19:44

Have you looked for George Albert Davie marrying her under another name????she could have been a widow???? a Sarah Rebecca Bennett married Hampshire 1894---William Henry Holmes---Registered Droxford September 1/4.... Sarah then would be 19ish,,,,, Also concider surname -Davie being mistranscribed as -Davis in the marriages,,,,,, Kay.

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 29 Oct 2005 20:04

I'm lost on the ...and (4) paragraph. Please could you clarify. Are we talking BENNETT or HEWETT?

Merry

Merry Report 29 Oct 2005 20:15

So you have the husband's death cert (1917) and the death wasn't registered by Rebecca so no clues there. that's one door shut then. The other death cert I ws refering to is the one you have found in the 1950's (I think, without refering back to your original post) for Rebecca Davie. personally, I don't think that this is going to be her (gut feeling) as she most likely would have either married or lived with someone during the years between and taken on a different surname. If you wanted to check out this person who died in the 50's, you would have to buy the death cert. Then you could possibly find out more about the person via the electoral rolls (available via the library local to her normal address - they might respond to an email enquiry - depends on the library!) once you knew their normal address from the death cert. To be honest, if it were me, I probably wouldn't take this route, as I don't think it's her (and would therefore be a waste of £7). I really think she could be virtually untracable unless there is some clue in someone's memory - and it doesn't sound as if there are any further clues to be had. I'm still thinking about it! Merry

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 29 Oct 2005 21:18

I'm still thinking too! ... What is it with these Southampton folk? I have a death certificate of my great grandfather, who died there. That has his sister in law as the informant too. ... I also had folk in Bevois Street... but at a different time. Anyway, on with the case.... Do you have any idea of addresses where any of the children lived, - perhaps from later marriage entries in parish records or similar. What about your father. Did he marry/ join services etc. from an address that he had lived at for some time? What I was thinking was that he was still young when his father died. Who was named on his school log entry in the parent's column, I wonder. I realise that there are dozens of schools in Southampton. How can we find out? Do the witnesses to your parents marriage give clues.'Adoptive' parents perhaps?

Michael

Michael Report 29 Oct 2005 23:36

Hello folks, This is so very good of you all. Kay, Greetings. I had to make notes on the questions asked so that I could refer to them as I do this. To your first question I have put 'well...yes, maybe ???.' Further to that I have written :- She, (Sarah Rebecca), was 23yrs old when she had her first child, George b1898. So if she wore out this William Henry Holmes in two or three years, then met my paternal g/father....yes, possible. A direction that I have not yet tried. That could explain the 'getting together'. At the other end of the relationship I wonder if she 'did a runner' and went back to the 'Holmes' name. Certainly worth looking at. Many thanks for your input. I have tried all ways regarding the mis-transcription by the way. I have been plugging away at this for over two years now. (OOOH my head hurts !!) Merry, I tend to agree with you about the lady from Derbyshire. A really long shot, put it down to desperation setting in. Thanks again for your thoughts on this. I am printing them all out and will be following them up. Gwyneth, A Mrs Henry, a neighbour brought dad up. Dad did take me to meet her when I was very young. (she made lovely bread pudding, but I diversify). He referred to her as 'mum'. I was about five then, so did not really take things in. Dad lied about his age to join the army early. I only found this out after his death, (ten coming up eleven years ago). I knew he had been in the army, but I thought it was National service that he had done, or wartime duties. Dads brothers and sisters lived locally, but they were never a close family. I did know his brother Albert quite well, I knew his sisters by sight, I do not know if they ever recognised me. Whilst fishing with dad in the docks one day, I would have been about seven then, he, (dad), started to talk to a chap. After a time he called me over and said 'I bet you don,t know who this is'.. I answered 'no'. He then said 'this is your uncle George'. We said our hello,s then I went back to the fishing. That was the only time I ever met him. They are all gone now. I have a cousin, Alberts daughter, but she knows nothing about the paternal g/parents either. When dad was in the Army, after he found out whatever he did about his mother, he used his future father-in laws address and my (to be) mother as next of kin. The witnesses on mum and dad,s marraige cert are her future sister in law ,(her brothers wife to be), Dorothy Noice, and Jack Nash, who, I understand at one time was an 'old flame' of mothers. Re Para (4). Starting 'at the back' and coming forward. John Davie and Sarah Hewett, (yep ! another one ), had George Henry Davie. George Henry Davie married Fanny Hewett. June 1st 1868 Parish Church of St. Mary. Southampton. Witnesses to the union were William Hewett, (same name as her father, but maybe a brother), and Mary Ann Hewett. Thats all folks. My heads buzzing, and they are my family, how all of you feel I do not know !!. Thanks for all the input. I certainly have a few more avenues to explore. I was getting rather 'tunnel visioned' about it. Regards to you all, and thanks again for your help. We who set these 'posers' do appreciate the feedback, be assured. Mick Davie.

Unknown

Unknown Report 30 Oct 2005 04:37

Michael, Have you concidered buying the eldest birth certificate ,,it may reveal another name other than along with , Bennett?which was dropped on later childrens birth certificate's Kay.

Michael

Michael Report 30 Oct 2005 10:04

Hi Kay, Thanks for your input. That may be a good idea. Thinking back many, many moons ago, when I met my uncle George, (the only time that I did), I seem to remember that he was a bit 'different' from the other siblings. The men were about five foot ten/eleven and stocky whereas George seemed to have been a shade taller and gaunt. The women of the line were broad hipped and 'mother earth' type. So yes, you could be on to something there. Of course it may just be the old memory playing up again, but there is only one way of finding out. The birth cert. will slot into the files anyway, so it will not be cash wasted if that leads to a dead end. Thanks a lot. I will act on that next week. Regards, Mick Davie.

Unknown

Unknown Report 30 Oct 2005 20:08

Hi Michael, You could find that the elder of the children could be born under another surname ,thats why you have had problems finding the births,,,,,,,,,when she married George they then changed /or took on the name of Davie.... So the eldest may prove difficult to find if he is under another surname,,but -Holmes is a good starting point,,,,,,,, If the first husband had been a mariner possible in that part.then it wasnt unusual to be wed/and widowed in weeks/months,sometime widow already pregnant,,,taken on by another man so child ends up with new husbands name..... Maybe Free/////bdm can throw up death of William Henry Holmes/ One listed -William Henry Holmes----age 21,,,died 1896,,but in Midhurst,,,,west sussex,,,not far from Hampshire boarder???? kay